The overwhelming shortsightedness of thinking highly polluting AA or AAA batteries are a better choice over a LiON solution pack because one needs to unscrew a couple of screws to replace it is completely unreasonable. AA or AAA are a stupid ask for a controller, it's unnecessary waste.
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Huh? Rechargeable AA and AAA batteries and chargers are highly affordable and work great. I only have a few items where I don't use them like smoke alarms. For everything else I use rechargable and absolutely love having devices with easily swappable batteries.
Meh. As long as the lithium battery is as easy to replace as it was to perform other Steam Controller repairs, it shouldn't be a big deal.
Think about how many AA batteries will end up in a landfill over the lifetime of the controller VS the typical lifetime of the lithium battery. The AA batteries loose every time.
Think of it like this: You can replace the battery once every two years (if the controller lasts that long in your sweaty ass hands 🤣) or you can replace the batteries every month... 24 times, adding 48-96 batteries to the landfill in that time.
Why wouldn't you get a pack of rechargeable AAs and a charger? $30-40 investment and you never need to buy batteries again, you don't generate waste, and can go from 0-100% power in seconds.
Well the rechargeable AAs will wear out just like an internal battery, but there's more of them and they're individually packaged. It's a bit more waste and a bit more money, even if it's not a big difference.
Personally I think the big difference is in usability - I'd rather just leave the controller on a charger when not in use and never have to worry about swapping cells in and out. (I think battery degradation is overblown - it should last way more than 2 years, especially if you aren't gaming for 20 hours straight)
0-100% instantly isn‘t really needed with the canvenient charging dock. AA accus suck most of the time anyways. Now if it used an 18650 or better a 21700, that would have been cool. But these are heavy and a replacable inbuilt battery is better for space management
I have an 8bitdo that sits in a cradle and turns on automatically when you pick it up. Never having to worry about batteries is so nice I would never have it any other way.
I have an 8bitdo Pro2 that charges over USB-C and when the battery pack died of heavy use, you could just swap it out with rechargeable AAs and keep going. I've gotten over a year of additional use out of that controller now thanks to the support for AA's.
I'm specifically not buying the Pro 3 because the battery isn't replaceable.
Hard disagree, AA batteries are passe.
Steam did the right move here.
Vastly prefer my DualSense with built-in rechargeable that lasts multiple days unplugged over my Xbox Series pad that eats AAs. Just make the replacement simple and affordable, which it appears they will.
Vastly prefer my DualSense with built-in rechargeable that lasts multiple days unplugged over my Xbox Series pad that eats AAs. Just make the replacement simple and affordable, which it appears they will.
Meanwhile I’m over here bitching about how my DualSense dies after like 8 hours of gameplay while my Xbox Elite Series 2 lasts like 40.
(But both of those are built-in rechargeables.)
It is a weird flip. My current steam controllers take AA batteries, but my current VR controllers are rechargeable lithium.
Why not all 3 options, sell a controller with a removable, rechargable battery pack & able to play with a cable in while charging, and if you remove it it leaves room for batteries instead.
Hard pass on AA, but having a 21700 would be great: Epic battery life but it's still standardized and swappable. I'd even take 18650s.
I guess it's not a huge issue for controllers if you use them regularly, but the energy density on lithium-ion batteries is great, but the self-discharge isn't ideal. AA rechargeables are usually NiMH, and those do better on that front.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-discharge
Lithium-ion: 2–3% per month;[3] ca. 4% p.m.[5]
Low self-discharge NiMH: As low as 0.25% per month
I have lithium-ion 18650s in my high-power flashlight, but for devices that I leave around the house that don't really need a lot of energy density
think TV remotes or something
I think that it's probably sensible to use NiMH batteries.