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"It’s safe to say that the people who volunteered to “shape” the initiative want it dead and buried. Of the 52 responses at the time of writing, all rejected the idea and asked Mozilla to stop shoving AI features into Firefox."

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[–] Hannibal@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Brave has it built in, where you can use it custom instead of paying or it being sent to their servers. I personally disabled it. I remember when Pocket was a thing for Firefox, and they made it built in, and people complained about it being proprietary.

They then bought it. Now they're removing it. I imagine this is what Mozilla will do after they realize nobody wants their AI. There's already 1000 different AIs as is. We don't need another one. I just use Librewolf or Waterfox for my Firefox fork, as it strips out the sponsored ads and telemetry.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 8 points 7 hours ago

It should be a plug-in, or add-on as they're called these days. And it should be something people have to go find and install rather than it being there by default. Make the opt-in as deliberate as possible.

Then see how popular it is.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 7 hours ago

They forgot to mention another fork. Called Floorp. Which I'm using.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 10 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I want it, so "nobody wants it" is wrong.

If you're wondering why it seems like nobody wants it, just watch the downvote counter on this comment.

[–] nic2555@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

It's a tool, and I'm glad that you have the opportunity to use it whenever you need. However, I'm not planning to use it, just like I'm not planning on using a bench saw. I don't mind people using bench saws, but it would be nice if tech companies would stop throwing bench saws at my face everytime I go outside.

The issue is more of how much LLM are marketed as the saviour of the world, while only a fraction of their users are actually going to have a use for it

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 3 hours ago

I have yet to see Firefox "throw bench saws in my face", as it were. It's been adding options to various menus. There are plenty of features Firefox has added over the years that I don't use, for example I don't use container tabs, but I don't think Firefox has "thrown them in my face"; they're just an option sitting in the file menu that I never click on.

A lot of people get offended by the mere existence of AI-driven tools, though, and interpret their existence as it being "thrown in their face." This puts them at odds with folks like me who use them, or at least want to try them out, because the only way to satisfy them would inherently leave me unsatisfied.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 hours ago

I don't mind people using a bench saw, but it would be nice if tech companies would stop throwing benches saws at my face everytime I go outside.

The important thing is that we communicate our strategy around bench saw adoption.

We're hiring a bench saw adoption consultant and we want you to meet with them this afternoon.

He said some great things about bench saws when we invited him to speak about accounting.

[–] MoreZombies@quokk.au 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

May I ask what about it you like and enjoy? It would be nice hearing someone who considers it advantageous.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 3 points 13 hours ago

I haven't had the chance to test out this specific feature yet so I can't speak to it specifically, but I've found it extremely handy being able to "interrogate" the contents of a web page using an LLM to specifically summarize whatever particular details I'm after from it. I still miss Firefox's "Orbit" extension for how it could summarize the content of Youtube videos, that was great for situations where someone would link an hour-long video to back up some argument they were making. Or just generally deciding whether it was worth watching an hour-long video, or skipping to whatever the basic point of the video was without all the irrelevant cruft.

In another thread on this subject I mentioned how I've lately found that Copilot is quite handy at creating quick Tampermonkey scripts to do tasks on specific web pages. It'd be nice if that was integrated directly into the browser, so that I could ask it for a script to do a task and it would have access to the page's source as context while creating it.

Current AI features are fairly simple, but I think the technology's got plenty of neat new applications coming in the near future. It frustrates me how many people want those applications to be limited to corporate-controlled browsers like Edge or Chrome.