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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Some years ago I concluded that in my own value framework, Hypocrisy was one of the greatest sins, just short of things like purposefully harming others for fun.

So yeah, an honest greedy fucker who doesn't hide they don't give a rat's arse about who they harm and how badly in the pursuit of their personal upside maximization is actually a better person (more precisely, a less bad person) than an hypocrite greedy fuck who won't give a rat's arse about who they harm and how badly in the pursuit of their personal upside maximization but try and pass themselves as caring and nice.

You see, they're both doing nasty things to others for personal gain, but the latter is poisoning the well of trust and by hiding their true nature manages to do far more harm than the former before people catch on to it and stop it.

Further, as far as I know there is no positive reason to use hypocrisy: it's only ever used to hide evil intent.

I suspect that alll in all hypocrites do a lot more harm to others than people who are just openly selfish.

That said, in the US Republicans too are hypocrites - notice how they promised all sorts of good things to people like farmers and then did the opposite.

Hypocrisy seems to be a general problem of big party politics.

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (16 children)

You see, the DNC, leaders of the DNC, know that your only sensible options are voting for them or sawing your own legs off, and they know that the reasonable people know this and the loud people are not smart.

This means that any time they lose, they can use that opportunity to shift more towards the right, as they are for the most part old, rich, conservative people.

The only thing they actually fear, is people being consistent long term in both voting for them, and voting to replace them slowly with more progressive elements, but we’re back at the loud people being dumb and encouraging voter apathy amongst themselves and others because it feels cathartic to complain when this is exactly what the DNC wants. They want voter apathy so they can continue to shift to the right. If they kept winning, and progressives kept winning, they’d have no choice but to shift to the left.

It feels so obvious, but on this site, it seems you are seen to be crazy if you suggest anything other than some fantasy solution involving guillotines and a lot of “no, you go first”, or more self foot gunning.

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[–] stickly@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (13 children)

[re-commenting with no instance shaming]

Every Marxist-Leninist user

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (3 children)

No rational or decent person ever refused to vote against Republicans in swing states.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States

The issue isn't one of rationality or decency. The issue is of exhausting a constituency with barriers and terrorizing them with criminal liability while controlling the privatized mechanism for counting votes

At some point, its two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. "No harm in voting" totally misses the problem at hand.

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[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 days ago

Nothing lost by protest voting then

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[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 16 points 6 days ago (9 children)

Why do I criticize your party more than Democrats?

Because Democratic candidates promise 100% and achieve maybe 30%.

Your party achieves 0% of its goals. You're not even on the ballot. Your criticism is exactly as valuable as it sounds.

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Your party has lost two elections to a carnival barker. I don't think Democrats are in a position to say whose criticism is valuable.

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[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Damn, he's kinda got a point

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[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Just be sure to climb down off the fence before the barbed wire goes up.

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[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (20 children)

8 Senators don't vote the way you want and now EVERY Democrat is a fascist.

Embarrassing childish fucking nonsense.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

8 Senators don’t vote the way you want and now EVERY Democrat is a fascist.

8 senators vote the way you want and now you're calling anyone who doesn't love it a child. Standard centrist.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 days ago

Amazing how they blame us for telling the truth and then lie to us and say we're the morons.

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