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President Donald Trump has pardoned his former personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, his onetime chief of staff Mark Meadows and others accused of backing the Republican’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

The “full, complete, and unconditional” pardon applies only to federal crimes, and none of the dozens of Trump allies named in the proclamation were ever charged federally over the bid to subvert the election won by Democrat Joe Biden. It doesn’t impact state charges, though state prosecutions stemming from the 2020 election have hit a dead end or are just limping along.

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It wasn't just rudy:

Late Sunday night, Justice Department attorney Ed Martin posted a list of over 70 people who would receive pardons. Many of the figures included were named as unindicted co-conspirators or charged at the state level for their roles in the plot to knowingly spread false claims of widespread voter fraud in an attempt to push states to reject former President Joe Biden’s victories in key swing states and pressure Vice President Mike Pence into stopping the certification of the election.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-pardons-2020-coup-plotters

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 4 points 4 days ago

Hopefully the States get them. President can't pardon State charges, but we all know he will threaten to anyways but let him expose himself more. The busier he is fighting or seething about anything unrelated, the less time he has to get other agenda stuff done. Keep him as busy as he is keeping online article writers.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Americans.. why TF do you even allow pardon power for one person?

For a lot of people saying "no kings" , Presidential powers actually exceed most Kings.

[–] Battle_Masker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 days ago

In our defense, we put a plan in place to prevent that, but in doing so didn't plan on half the people in question being too afraid to use said plan and/or [the other] half of those people to be down bad for such power grabs

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 days ago

I don’t effing know. The pardon seems very strange to me.

[–] CidVicious@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

Because the justice system is entirely formed on the belief that it is better to let many guilty people go free than one innocent person be punished, or so it is said. So giving the president the ultimate ability to grant clemency, but none to punish, was an intentional, last ditch method for preventing injustice, supposedly.

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 days ago

Assuming we are living in the Idiocracy timeline, so we can grant one for Not Sure.

[–] nixus@anarchist.nexus 1 points 4 days ago

To prevent the friends of the rich and powerful from having to face justice for their crimes. The idea that the US ever had Rule of Law is a joke.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 days ago

our govt was the beta for democracy and was primarily structured by the wealthy elite to maintain power for the wealthy elite. We've now gone so long without a much needed revolution that we can no longer do so without bloodshed, and I guess material conditions still haven't deteriorated enough for people to be willing to put their lives on the line for their children's future.

[–] crazycraw@crazypeople.online 12 points 4 days ago

no justice no peace

fuck them all

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Felon rapist pardons fellow criminal.

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

I honestly don't understand what took that fucker so long. Orange c*#t and his pedo friends

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

This means nothing because he can't pardon state crimes he's pardoned nothing...dumb motherfucker