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This is a weekly thread in which we read through books on and related to imperialism and geopolitics. Last week's thread is here.

The book we are currently reading through is Empire's Workshop by Greg Grandin. There are two main editions, to my knowledge: the original one with a yellow cover from 2006, and an updated version from 2021 with an orange cover. I am reading the latter version.

Please comment or message me directly if you wish to be pinged for this group, or if you no longer wish to be pinged.

This week, we will be reading Chapter 3.

Next week, we will be reading Chapter 4.

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[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Imperalism Reading Group ping!

In Chapter 3, we see the United States caught in the mire of the Great Depression at almost the same time as the (quite anti-American) Mexican Revolution, and the failures of their military intervention in Nicaragua. Roosevelt is forced to take a more neighbourly policy of non-intervention and allow a degree of independence across the continent, lest the upstart American Empire meet the same end as the European empires. Such a relationship would not last too far beyond World War 2, but this period was nonetheless a key development in the concept of soft power.

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[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I'm always on guard for the present-day parallels while reading through these books, and for this week's chapter, all I can really say is: imagine the present day US allowing countries around the world more political/economic sovereignty? Such a voluntary imperial decline wouldn't necessarily have to be all that terrible for everybody involved if it was managed - though a LOT of capitalists would still lose a LOT of money. Of course, such a hypothetical, while interesting to consider, isn't all that helpful as the US administration regardless of party seems to pick a different country each week to threaten with invasion or sanctions.

[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

@reader@hexbear.net In response to your comment last thread - any thread can be used to discuss any chapter discussed so far. In general, I wouldn't really advise people commenting in the older threads as you're unlikely to get anybody but me reading and responding to them and it's harder to moderate old threads, but there's nothing really wrong with doing so. Feel free to post your links here too!

[–] reader@hexbear.net 2 points 5 days ago

stalin-heart

I more meant whether "any chapter discussed so far" included the current one, which people are ostensibly just starting on today? But I understand contextually that your comments are regarding chapter 3 so its clearer to me now.

[–] DylanMc6@hexbear.net 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

when america started getting taxed by an empire, we had an emperor. when america was a colony of a kingdom, we had a king - now we're a country, and we have donald trump.