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How to avoid falling into accelerationism (lemmygrad.ml)
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The collapse of the American empire would benefit almost every other country. I am starting to feel that since I live in America I should want to accelerate the collapse (or make sure one happens if things start to go back to business as usual). Can someone tell me why this is a bad idea so that I don't make a mistake here.

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[–] BarrelsBallot@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wish I could answer your question but I'm in agreement.

It pains me to imagine any of our contemporaries having to suffer at all but the unwavering commitment to electoral solutions and awareness activism from those who are left adjacent and the most conscious of the u.s populace is clear evidence that we have gotten much too comfortable riding the backs of the global south and our own domestic unfortunates to do anything of political substance.

And then you have the rest of population, liberally right or so far gone that their only salvation is to become fertilizer.

I won't belabor what we all already know, the only way out is a revolutionary crisis.

[–] Comrade1917@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I do think that if it doesn't seem possible for a revolution in America the second best thing is collapse so at least the rest of the world can benefit. The worst thing that could happen is America stabilizing and maintaining hegemony. I am just disturbed by the fact that accelerationism might actually be a valid answer here (not for the people in America but for the rest of the world). If it is a valid viewpoint then why is it banned in r/socialism. I asked here to clarify.

[–] BarrelsBallot@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Unsure as to why it is banned but I believe that accelerationism as it is commonly known refers to a different ideology coined by some unpopular people, and has little to do with what you and I are discussing now.

To see what I mean, look into Nick Land and his Accelerationist views, otherwise maybe a more educated Comrade can speak on this point as I am not fully aware.

In my opinion, the need for a revolutionary crisis is only as ideological as the biological need humans have for air.

To your original point though, overall I think the collapse of the u.s as we know it would not only benefit the world but also those of us living in it.

[–] Comrade1917@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 4 days ago

Depends on how it collapses. Technically the current president is collapsing American soft power already. He can't run the government competently which helps to accelerate the collapse. The problem for people living in America while this happens is things will get very bad as it increasingly represses it's citizens and the class divide will only widen. I do think the collapse of american hegemony is still worth it though for the rest of the world. Regardless of how much we hate the current president we have to admit he has done things liberals absolutely would not have done (dissolve USAID, tariff all countries (this makes other countries adapt and become less dependent on the US), destroying the ability of the us to get rare earths by engaging in a losing trade war with China.) I mean I absolutely hate him but technically he has done more to desolve American hegemony than any other president in history (probably by accident).

[–] Darkcommie@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Because Acceleration doesnt guarantee your specific outcome and could make matters worse for everyone because it’s essentially arguing “let’s make this worse to make it better” you’re manufacturing a crisis to imitate revolution of the past when you have no base to work from

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