"wow switching to piefed cured my Havana syndrome":
this post was submitted on 27 Aug 2025
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Isn't this how it's always worked? I think it's the same with lemmy.world where you can see comments from .world users on Lemmygrad but they can't see your replies.
Can you point to the file in the pieced codeberg repo that hardcodes these blocks?
I need to understand if this is a block built into the software, or just an option the operators who deploy piefed have set in a blocklist.
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I think it's annoying, but im not sure if there's a clear solution. Id say this type of one sided block is similar to ghost bans and feels just as abusive.
I cant imagine it's very pleasant on their side either, since it would feel as if everyone from grad or ml were giving you the cold shoulder and make the fediverse feel dead.
The nature of the fediverse is open though - escalating this to another ban/block or banning the custom fork would be counterproductive, imo. If thats their preferred way to curate content, I guess thats their prerogative
You can still federate after the instance setup, like piefed.zip does
You said I spammed this, but you still didn't register the information?
https://hexbear.net/post/5959834/6443954
I think it's more that the admins are the only ones that can do that.
See this comment: https://lemmy.ml/post/35276820/20723645
Long story short, instances who defederate hexbear were doing so on their Lemmy instances anyway
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Omg dude we get it stop spamming this. We know. That is not what this is about.
If someone runs an instance that has manually unblocked us cool but that is not what this is about and you are clearly the one not registering what I am pointing out here
You are presenting this like the baked in code forces one-way federation, when it's clear that the admins can update this later.
Example of two Piefed instances that currently federate hexbear:
- https://piefed.au/instances?page=6&filter=federated&search=
- https://anarchist.nexus/instances?page=4&filter=federated&search= , which is related to https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/, also federated with hexbear
List of Piefed instances that currently defederate hexbear:
- https://piefed.blahaj.zone/ , the same way https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/ does
- https://piefed.world/, the same way https://lemmy.world/ does
- https://piefed.ca/, the same way https://lemmy.ca/ does
- https://feddit.online/, the same way https://fedia.io/ does (by the way, Fedia isn't a software, it's called Mbin, and doesn't have such code, so not sure why you're including them into your title)
- https://quokk.au/, it used to be the same when it was still a Lemmy instance
- https://piefed.europe.pub/, the same way https://europe.pub/ does
https://piefed.fediverse.observer/list
As you can see, instances defederating hexbear are instances managed by teams which were going to do so anyway, as they already did on Lemmy.
Instances who want to federate know how to do so, there are three examples.
Yes but I am saying we should block at least any that have this one directional federation. You are putting impressive effort into missing the point.
Edit: And thankfully we apparently just did.
Where is that code? Does it block some specific instances or how does it work?
For hexbear + lemmygrad it's by default
from what I can tell, when a server is spun up there's the option to subscribe to an existing blocklist on a piefed server.
This means blocklists can propagate transitively:
If instance A blocks lemmy.ml, and instance B subscribes to A’s blocklist, and instance C subscribes to B’s blocklist, then whatever instance is blocked on A will also end up blocked on C (unless filtered out manually).
quoting the developer of piefed, hexbear and lemmygrad are blocked by default:
This is why piefed is so popular with centrist extremists.
Piefed just seems like it's going to be a social chauvanist echo chamber, most people like Lemmy because even though the devs have their own ideological principles, it doesn't pre-configure the user experience based on those principles.
It's rather unfortunate that no one gets to see other perspectives. And it's messing with my hope that the USA can get better, because it's feels like this: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/8939607
These people are willing to accept the "lesser evil," but it's the same evil, and they are condemning poor people and PoC to have to deal with it, because we're the buffer. But they won't stop at us.
Moreover, this is the censorship they screen bloody murder about with the "great firewall." Absolutely zero introspective ~~ability~~ effort.
It's deeply unfortunate, that's why I try to do the best I can to stay optimistic but realistic.
Well collective karma is real, and they think by throwing some into the volcano it won't erupt. But the volcano is going to do what it does, eventually.
I hope so.
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Does it not have that slur filter still? Not sure that's really the reason people use lemmy
The slur filter was one of the most genius moves I've ever seen.
I think it's a bit heavy handed and there are legit reasons why one wouldn't want it, but it certainly repelled the right type of potential Lemmy admins
I don't think the slur filter is something enabled by default, or if it is, is a widely known setting.
It used to be hard coded, not even in the database but in Lemmy code itself and couldn't be changed without forking. If I read the issue https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/622 correct, this has changed though.
Ah, gotcha.
Harcoded block lists in your software? Gross.
Thanks. That's unfortunate. But everyone running an instance will know about blocked instances sooner or later and can get them if the list of they like.
The blocklist subscription would be super useful on mastodon but I think the threadiverse is a bit different. However I'm on my single user instance and am subscribed to communities on other instances only, so I already get a pre-moderated experience even if I don't block any instances myself so far so is experience doesn't match that of the admin of an instance with more users and own communities.
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