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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They even directly lie in the headline

to keep it open and safe

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

we're closing it up to keep it open

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 60 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Annnd... platform closed. It was good while it lasted I guess.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Good might be an overstatement, less shit than the others perhaps.

Nah man it was good. Until recently Android was a pretty nice experience, and the shitty parts weren't even really Android's fault. Lack of software updates and being unable to switch to another Android distro? You can blame the stupid decisions of ARM for that.

[–] Qzr@programming.dev 18 points 3 days ago

Does that mean it's finally time for a Linux phone?

[–] weirdo_from_space@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

What sucks about this is most people can't do anything about it. Open, custom rom / Linux friendly smartphones aren't widely available. You're pretty much screwed if you are somewhere other than EU or North America.

The most you could do is raise money for an iPhone to at least have software support for longer, since at that point there is no other difference between the two. Or you can buy a feature phone if you really don't want to deal with the Apple tax and use your phone for basic stuff anyway.

Edit: There is another option, FOSS devs can rely on PWAs and you can switch to using those until they are also taken away.

[–] kadup@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago

Guess I'll buy a Fairphone, use whatever is the latest update before this crap, and ride it until it dies or global warming takes us, whichever comes first.

I'm not buying hardware that interferes with what software I can run.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What a coincidence, I was planning to buy a Linux phone.

[–] Dumhuvud@programming.dev 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] weirdo_from_space@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

None of them seem very good, mobile Linux hasn't been around for very long so the ecosystem is very immature. But tome it seems like your best bet would be buying a Volla phone or a Fairphone with Ubuntu Touch pre-installed. I don't know how well waydroid works though.

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 3 points 2 days ago

mobile Linux hasn’t been around for very long

lol people have been trying to make Linux on mobile since at least the N95 18 years ago. Android is the only success story and that's not really "mobile Linux" in the same way that most people think of it. The fact that Android is running on Linux is almost completely hidden from apps.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Welp, another reason to use Lineage without Play services

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Has its shortcomings unfortunately...

E.g. even though most of my important contacts don't exclusively rely on Whatsapp any more, the alternative that has established itself as a kind of consensus is Signal, which is only available via Playstore, if I'm not mistaken.
Same is true for my banking app that is needed for my day-to-day bank account.
Same is also true for governmental service apps or the ID app to authenticate once before e.g. being able to use a new SIM card.

List goes probably on, these are just the things that have come spontaneously to my mind.

This complete reliance on OS's from a private companies (Apple not being better) with their own agenda sucks.
And LineageOS isn't the solution it has been a few years back any more, I am afraid... :-(

[–] nathan@piefed.alphapuggle.dev 26 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Signal, which is only available via Playstore, if I'm not mistaken

You are, in fact, mistaken

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks, didn't know that existed.
Although their website is inaccurate, as it seems not to be available on f-droid.

It is. Follow these instructions. It adds an F-Droid repository with the applications

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Interesting...
I had the conflict with f-droid in my mind, where the Signal developers were very specific about not wanting any Signal builds distributed outside of the Playstore.
That seems to have changed...?
But still no build distributed via f-droid, I just checked. But that may still be because the f-droid maintainers really where pissed off at the time...

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

To my knowledge, they prohibit third parties from building distributions and connecting to the centralized server, because fuck open-source, I guess.

[–] Balldowern@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

No that's due to the tiny hat community doing exactly that & archiving secret chats. Check out Micah Lee's presentation in Defcon regarding Telemessage-Signal.

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

Time to bail 😔

[–] Fitik@fedia.io 6 points 2 days ago

Sounds like it could be a sign to try out !postmarketos@programming.dev

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 6 points 2 days ago

This is only for certified devices so if you're using custom mods nothing will change.

For open source Android devs it means that now they will have to hand Google their data or people with stock android won't be able to install their apps.

[–] zeezee@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They're saying that

For student and hobbyist developers

We're committed to keeping Android an open platform for you to learn, experiment, and build for fun. We recognize that your needs are different from commercial developers, so we're working on a separate type of Android Developer Console account for you.

but I wonder how is the device going to tell between these different types of APKs? Like it already says it's an untrusted source will it just say "hobbyist or student package" when you install? and is basically just changing the text really gonna improve security?

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 9 points 2 days ago

It will either allow installation or reject the app. You simply won't be able to install an app from banned/unverified developer.

[–] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's not super clear from the post whether this means that you have to pay for a developer account. It says there will be a new type of account for students and hobbyists?

[–] Klear@quokk.au 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You already have to pay for a dev account.

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah they meant is that going to stay the case or will there be a new free account type?

I don't think it makes any difference. Money isn't the issue.