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[–] deafboy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Honestly, did the word "drop" change meaning in the past few months, or am I just crazy?

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

I can't tell if dropped means released or removed?

[–] terminatortwo@piefed.social 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Not really, it’s just more common!

Drop is a contronym, it means its own opposite, and its use as “disappear” or “appear” extends waaay back. Eg. Usage as in Drop a line or drop a letter go as far as the 1700s.

So just a different line in a long history of drops.

https://www.oed.com/dictionary/drop_v

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Would "dropping" a letter not be letting it go from your hand into the mail box?

[–] terminatortwo@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah I imagine so. From the examples there it’s either things that drop into place (dropped into town, dropped upon them, dropped ashore, dropped a goal), or from it (dropped back, dropped away, dropped from view)

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Its an ambiguous slang statement that can mean several different things at once. It requires extra work to ground in a well-defined meaning.

Much in the same way 'going to the bank' could mean a financial institution or a river, 'dropping' something can mean releasing a new thing, stopping support, or physically fumbling an object on the ground. OP could have done a better job disambiguating with either different words or more context.

[–] pepperfree@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah. Sorry, good thing I attached the related link.

[–] afk_strats@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It picked up a lot of use by GenZ+ especially though the phrase "New {something} just dropped".

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Goddamn kids

[–] vividspecter@aussie.zone 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

More like in the past 10 years or so, but yes. On a side note, "leaked" has also subtly changed meaning from the actual product (such as a game being released early through piracy etc) to just information about the product.

[–] bobo@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"leaked" has also subtly changed meaning from the actual product (such as a game being released early through piracy etc) to just information about the product.

Just no... Information getting out despite attempts to conceal it, is the secondary meaning of that verb since at least the 19th century.

[–] vividspecter@aussie.zone 1 points 1 month ago

Thanks for the correction. The latter meaning did gain more prominence in recent years in my perception, but it's not surprising that it already existed in the past.

[–] hummingbird@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

It's not you

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Depends where they dropped the thing. In your lap, or in a bin? Context, as always, is key.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What's not what we expected?

[–] pepperfree@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Everybody been rumoring about R2. So releasing this thing kinda unexpected

[–] 0x01@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

DeepSeek-V3.1 is a hybrid model that supports both thinking mode and non-thinking mode. Compared to the previous version, this upgrade brings improvements in multiple aspects:

  • Hybrid thinking mode: One model supports both thinking mode and non-thinking mode by changing the chat template. 
  • Smarter tool calling: Through post-training optimization, the model's performance in tool usage and agent tasks has significantly improved.
  • Higher thinking efficiency: DeepSeek-V3.1-Think achieves comparable answer quality to DeepSeek-R1-0528, while responding more quickly.

The tool calling improvements are very welcome

[–] pepperfree@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

I wonder if we can extend the context length. It already fine-tuned with YaRN so we can't get free extend with that method.

[–] snikta@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

What did we expect?