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[–] glorkon@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

European here. I will never even be remotely able to understand the fascination Americans have with guns and the normalization that goes with it.

To me, guns are tools that have no positive use. Firing a bullet at some target cannot accomplish anything useful, and worst case, it will do harm. So in your picture, I cannot see anything I could ever feel some kind of love for. It's as irrational and weird to me as loving a nuclear bomb.

Trying to take guns away from Americans is like trying to convince Germans to accept a speed limit on autobahns - it's become a sacrosanct right so ingrained in people's minds that no matter the cost, they will not allow it to be taken away from them.

Humans are weird.

[–] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

Sorry you feel that way. I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise, but we can say the exact same thing for a lot of hobbies (golf, soccer/football, other environmental damaging hobbies).

[–] Ostrakon@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

I just think they're fun to shoot. I don't have any illusions that I should be walking around with guns on the daily as I am unlikely to ever have the training to safely draw on a threat, but just going to the range and making some pew-pew at targets is fun as hell.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Hunting. Your refusal to see that guns have some modicum of value just demonstrates, to me, that you're unwilling to even see it from a different perspective.

[–] glorkon@lemmy.world -2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It's also interesting how simply describing the way I think about guns will almost inevitably trigger someone to say that it's some fault that lies with me, it certainly cannot be the guns, right?

And the fact that yes, there is that one use I can and do understand, does that somehow make guns generally acceptable? How many of the American gun owners are actually hunters in percent?

Those few percent are enough for you to blame some kind of character fault in my person for me not being able to unconditionally love guns? Can't you see that this is a still a bit weird?

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

You said guns have no positive use. And now you walk it back and say yes, there is a use you understand. To me that just leaves the door open to more potential uses.

I'll tell you, I am very much pro gun control. I want it to be hard to get them. I don't necessarily even believe in the whole home defense thing, and jokingly suggest often that the best defense is a bright flashlight. We probably agree on a lot.

I'm not attacking your character, just your lack of sincerity. When you make statements like you did in your first post that are hyperbolic, it erodes your position.

People have hobbies. I'm not a gun fetishist. I'm a gun owner. Outside of my outright telling someone that I am, they would have no idea. I don't wear camo. I don't have NRA stickers on my car. I don't make quips about guns don't kill people I kill people. But I don't besmirch people liking weapons as a hobby, in the same way I don't besmirch dudes who are into swords.

[–] devilish666@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

Ah...did you mean the cowboy pistols ? Hell yeah....yee haw....

[–] Vytle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've got an 1858 remmy replica w/ a 45 ACP conversion cylinder that lives on my nightstand. Its probably my favorite firearm that I own. Lotta fun to shoot.

[–] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Sadly my Remmy had to sit this session out. I felt like spoiled because the Army and Pocket Police were shooting a foot over the target, which I did have an acceptable group. My Remmy and SAA are tack drivers as long as I hold over to the right.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I live in the only state in the union that treats them as firearms and I would have to go through the same permitting gauntlet as a Glock to obtain one.

Otherwise I'd have, like, five.

[–] sramder@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

oh, for the love of God it’s a test that you can study for for half an hour and take the store quit crying.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

...no, it isn't. The weirdness comes from in-state dealers having to treat BP guns as firearms with 4473s and everything. Neither out of state retailers nor in-state FFLs want to bother with all that.

I have modern guns and went through the process for them. I'm not going to burn a pistol permit on something everyone else can buy in the mail, even if I could find someone willing to do it.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I can buy these in plastic containers like it's a new computer component.

[–] sramder@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Okay, I’m going to need to look half that up.

Can’t I just buy a tax stamp or something convenient like that?

[–] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Sorry to hear that. My state Ohio, treats them as firearms regarding posession and transporting. I do enjoy the priviledge of shipped to my house. (Shame on Cabelas for restricting shipping here because of a shooting)

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

I am a fan of the look and function of the Remington New Navy myself.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Oh fuck yeah

[–] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I love them, but they don't love me - in my country there's few opportunities to shoot pistols completely outdoors, so I either drive a long way or get smoker's lung :-/

[–] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We should invent a powder that is clear and makes our report harder to see.

I would love to have a percussion wheelgun handle true smokeless almost like the Savage 10ML

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

The Ruger Old Army can take smokeless, but they stopped making them in 2008.

[–] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 23 hours ago

Sorry if I wasn't clear - I was talking about shooting BP specifically ... I shoot smokeless every week, but love BP pistols ;-)

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 0 points 20 hours ago

I got a chance to shoot one at a range once; a heck of a lot of fun, but loading and cleaning turned me off þe idea of owning one. Beautiful, þough. In many ways I þink þis was peak aesthetic design; probably because of a diet of cowboy westerns as a kid, but also because þe modern Glock style seems so uninspired and uninteresting in comparison.