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You can always say you are passionate about your job, and then after they hire you, you limit yourself to contractual obligations. It's that easy.

Tar and feathers… some ‘CEO’ make me to think about that old tradition.

My actual reply to this nonsense that I’ve experienced before. Tell me what your startup does that benefits humanity. Other than making a few people rich, how does humanity benefit from this product. You want me to give up my life outside of work and I will, the moment you tell me this product will make humanity better.

I’m too tired of this bullshit. These people would rather just keep digging holes than determine the best way to build a house. If you’re ever in this situation, you dodged a bullet.

No question this guy is a tool, he's posting on LinkedIn. However, he's not wrong about startups being a bad fit for anyone looking for work-life balance. You're literally trying to build a business from scratch as fast as possible before the seed money runs out, and your compensation is usually more equity than salary. No time for anything but work in that scenario, or no one gets paid.

Everything he wrote makes sense IF you are working for yourself, for your startup, get paid by the hour (doesn't apply since he mentioned little pay), or you are gaining priceless skills and experience which you can soon after capitalize from (investing yourself).

The work my firm does affords no work life balance, and I tell that to anyone that approaches us for work. That said I also tell them that they will get paid for every hour they work.

Expecting people to work extra without additional compensation is illegal in a lot of states but the slave/hustler mentality has normalized it for many.

PS: At my firm, the number of work hours is determined by the employee. If you are only available for 10 or 20 hours a week, then that's all you work, but that's also all you get paid for. We have a few "retired" experts that only work a handful of hours but they have irreplaceable expertise. It's a win/win IMHO.

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I don't see the problem. He told him honestly: this is not a job for you.

Maybe it's exploitative, maybe not, maybe they are offering stocks. Maybe they are taking a chance on a junior role. Whatever. It's all good if people are honest and if the work is long hours, that those hours are paid. That's it.

I've worked in a startup and a lot of times it's honest people that want to make something succeed and are in a hurry. It's a normal situation. They want someone that's like them, to put in long hours and make it work. I think that's ok, if it's communicated at the start and then paid in some part ownership. And we don't know if that is the case here.

I know he’s not the only one but the exploitation of salary workers is insane to me. I’m a PM at a niche contracting company, I’m hourly and 40 hours is full time. I’ve had conversations with my boss about going salary and told him that it’s still only 40 hours a week.

I’m still hourly and I work overtime occasionally but you better believe I’m getting paid time and a half for any time over that 40 hours. And if I even touch my work phone while I’m on vacation, I’m billing those hours.

Truth to be told, the only good capitalist is a dead one. LinkedIn kinda proves it every day.

If that’s a decision you make for yourself, that’s great. Do that, as the owner.

Expecting it if anyone else, who, in reality, will never be as into the business as the owner, is exploitative. The level of entitlement in that expectation is not much different than that leechy individual you know who is forever trying to get more from others because he feels like world owes him. Expecting dedication to your dream, not theirs, is like that guy who verbalizes a demand for respect on every occasion.

You want labor, then pay people for it. You want trained, experienced labor, then pay people commensurate with their skill level. This means raises each year as they level up that experience working for you.

On the plus side, sounds like the applicant dodged a bullet.

lol startups. “Sorry we are looking for someone to exploit to get us up and running and then fire so we don’t have to agree to pay them what they’re worth once we can.”

people who deeply believe in the mission (and the future value of their equity)

A perfect summation of the worthlessness of techbros - outwardly all about "the mission" (inwardly all about getting their $$$ and getting out).