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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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[–] axum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Xlibre is run by a very unstable and shitty person. Pass. Just let xserver die

[–] tux0r@feddit.org 0 points 1 day ago

Not as long as possible replacements aren't platform-independent.

[–] that_leaflet@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago
[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

The first comment on the request

For the sake of all of our sanity, I'd really appreciate if FESCo could decide on this one really quickly (e.g. putting out a statement) and avoid what could be a most unpleasant flame-fest on this mailing list.

[–] Geodad@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

From what I understand, xorg has fundamental security flaws. How will they remedy this?

Why stick with a dead standard when the rest of the FOSS world has moved on?

What happens when the Linux kernel drops support for xorg? Do they intend to fork an older version of the kernel in order to keep support?

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

The only way to fix Xorg is to break org. It requires a redesign.

The Xorg devs chose to do that by starting a separate project. The breakage has been in Wayland, now maturing, while Xorg was left stable. Xlibre wants bring this disruption to the X codebase itself.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

From what I understand, xorg has fundamental security flaws. How will they remedy this?

They won't. Don't download random shit and if you're worried, run it in Flatpak

What happens when the Linux kernel drops support for xorg? Do they intend to fork an older version of the kernel in order to keep support?

Not really possible, since X11 is only built on top of the kernel's graphical interface (same as Wayland). Even if that wasn't the case, the kernel doesn't delete any code that anybody uses (that's why 30 year old programs still run)

[–] KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago

While that's true, but the main issue here is the unavailability of frequent security patches that Fedora now appears to be attempting to solve with X11Libre.