Israel is the attack dog of the empire, not the other way around. "Israelis" have not infiltrated US government or own US media. That's like saying the military has infiltrated the Pentagon.
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this is a super important distinction that i see leftists (especially on twitter) fail to see all the fucking time its embarassing. This video posted is representing the vibes of an american who doesnt understand that its THEMSELVES that are doing all this, and is wrong over and over. Im surprised this shit even got posted here
The video has anti-semitic dog whistle vibes saying "Israelis own the media". The video doesn't feel very leftist to me.
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Norman Finkelstein talks about this and you wouldn't claim he is antisemitic. There is an element of Jewish "supremacy" that fuels Zionism is the argument he makes. So it would be wrong to dismiss the wealthy and powerful jews who push the agenda and they're definitely consciously playing into this anti-Zionism = antisemitism narrative. It benefits them at the expense of everyone else. These people are the last ones to ever suffer any real consequences of the eventual antisemitism wave in the west too.
That said this does not remove any of the imperialist reasons for America's support of Israel either, its a natural alliance. The only people(close to positions of power) at this point who "oppose" Israel are the ones who envision a "clean" empire i.e do all the killing and conquering but behind close doors so they don't have to feel guilty for it.
We saw the unified response behind "Israel has the right to defend itself", that alone is an assumption of innocence, every single liberal supported this message because it is the ultimate proof they're the good guys they're only defending "civilization" from barbarianism, literaly Ukraine talking points again.
The only difference is Ukraine's war crimes can be dismissed as the Ukrainian 2014-2022 stuff is very hard to find for normal people while Palestine is basicaly livestreaming genocide.
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Video is making this thing go crazy 
Sadly there are a bunch of libs on hexbear that still cannot separate anti-semitism from anti-zionism. Even the [person in the] video makes that clear it's not this person's position.
It's really insane how embedded Mosad, AIPAC and the rest of the Isreal lobby are, and it's not reality's fault that Isreal has played into those tropes and hides behind them. It's Israel's fault for this shit, then they cry anti-semitism when you criticize them for literally any of the things they do. It's breaking people's brains in a way that this rabid dog state can get away with anything. Especially genocide.
I don't know if you're making some accusation here, but please don't tell me that pointing out Israel's lobby groups exist or that that Israel committing genocide is anti-semitic, that shit doesn't work on me.
Sadly there are a bunch of libs on hexbear that still cannot separate anti-semitism from anti-zionism.
This has not been my experience at all. I think this community is pretty great at citicising Israel while still calling out when the criticism starts to veer into the conspiracy brained shit.
I don't know if you're making some accusation here, but please don't tell me that pointing out Israel's lobby groups exist or that that Israel committing genocide is anti-semitic, that shit doesn't work on me.
No absolutely not. I'm well aware of the power of the Israeli lobbying groups and Israels genocide of Palestinians, there was a few too many sus conspiracy takes for my liking. "~~jews~~ Israel control the media" being one the ones that stood out the most. The bourgeoisie control the media, and maintaining US and western hegemony is their primary goal. Israel is just a tool to project US/western influence in the middle east. As Joe Biden said in 1986, “If there were not an Israel, we’d have to invent one.”
Oh, also my post was tongue in cheek as when i logged back in it was at 88 comments, 14 new
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