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Brett Wilkins Jun 16, 2025

Flight-tracking websites showed dozens of Air Force aerial refueling planes departing from military bases in the United States and heading to Europe on Sunday, fueling speculation of direct U.S. involvement in the widening Israeli-Iranian war.

Military-focused news sites reported that around 30 U.S. Air Force KC-135R and KC-46A tankers were identified by flight-tracking software in what The Times of Israelcalled an "unprecedented mass deployment" to Europe.

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 19 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (8 children)

worry not. remember this is TACO Don... he'll chicken out again

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

He openly calls service members suckers and losers. I dont know that he much cares whats done with them.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

Yeah, it seems fairly impossible he'll get fully into the war, and even lending a few bunker busters would be surprising when that's risking a blowback on American forces.

I would guess that Trump is expecting Khamenei to cave, because that's what he'd do. Most likely, he won't, Trump will be confused, and this will drag on and on until a regional nuclear exchange is on the table.

[–] ansiz@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Who is exchanging nukes in that? Israel and who else?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 hours ago

Reciprocal nukes like Trump's reciprocal tariffs.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Iran or Iran's splinter states. They have several bombs worth of uranium that's almost ready.

I doubt the US would get involved, and nobody else is going to for sure.

[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Hasn't Iran been talking about ramping up nuclear weapons production since like the end of last year? I don't think they're actually a nuclear capable nation but I could see them posturing like they are

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[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 17 points 15 hours ago

So NOW they want to have bases in Europe?

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 18 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

US is going to be bankrupt by the time he is done his second term.

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[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 13 points 16 hours ago (2 children)
[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Ueah. Yeah its pretty fucked.

The shitty thing is: this mother fucker woild love iranian culture. It's super good at all the shit he fakes like gold plated shit.

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[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 22 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Well, so much for peace talks.

[–] demunted@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 hours ago

When you are 0/2 why go for 3.....

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 14 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

WW3 Here we go! 🎉🥳

/s

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Any tips? Like do I hoard rice, beans, sugar, spices, things I can trade with other people?

Should I get a pro-grade slingshot, maybe a bow and arrow?

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago

Don't ask me for tips.

I'd probably just kill myself, I wouldn't have the will to live.

I hope reincarnation is real and I get to be born in an advanced post-scarcity civillization somewhere out there in the universe/multiverse where I can enjoy hundreds orntousands of years being a captain of a starship just mapping the universe.

Unfotunately, that's just me daydreaming, its too far fetched to be real.

(Okay maybe get some ham radios and some portable ones, stored in an EM-Shielded container with some solar panel batteries? Communication might be important. But, ask yourself: do you really want to live in a nuclear apocalypse?)

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Learn high-density home gardening and safe food preservation. That said, white rice does store a long time so it's a good thing to hoard if you're worried about food availability.

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[–] Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz 73 points 1 day ago (10 children)

This is basic dictator playbook, problems in domestic politics, start a war and problems change to foreign policy.

Putin has done this multiple times now, and Trump is following up.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is why I say Canada, Greenland, and Mexico are not safe. Added to the fact that all 3 countries have lots of resources the US needs.

[–] Donjamos@lemmy.world 15 points 21 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Wasn't Trump the peaceful dove?

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 19 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Everyone knew he wasn't going to be able to curtail democratic elections without the excuse of a war. This is on schedule.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago (12 children)

Good thing states control the elections.

[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 9 points 17 hours ago

I mean, Trump just illegally deployed the national guard and the marines in California. He needed the state’s permission (which he didn’t get) to deploy the guard and deploying the marines is on a whole other level of illegal.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

No.

We had a lot of "I'm willing to make deals with anyone" rhetoric from the Trump campaign that low-info voters took to mean he was anti-war.

But the underlying Pentagon leadership hasn't significantly changed between Biden and Trump (or Bush and Trump, for that matter). Its all the same neoconservative think tanks writing variations on Project For A New American Century for the modern government.

The idea that you were going to elect an anti-war president went out the window during the primaries. Vanishingly few federal office holders have shown opposition to attacking Iran. Less than what we had in 2003 against Iraq.

Everyone from Richie Torres to Mike Lee seem on board with a brand new Holocaust in the Middle East.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

But the underlying Pentagon leadership hasn’t significantly changed between Biden and Trump (or Bush and Trump, for that matter).

That's not strictly true. Trump purged a lot of leadership that was loyal to the Constitution rather than personally to him.

But your overall point about the war-hawkishness remains valid.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

But the underlying Pentagon leadership hasn’t significantly changed between Biden and Trump (or Bush and Trump, for that matter). Its all the same neoconservative think tanks writing variations on Project For A New American Century for the modern government.

That isn't congress or the president. Pentagon leadership doesn't declare war. Congress has the power to declare war which hasn't happened for some time and since then the president has basically done so, although arguable that it's been a "formal" declaration of war.

This is what people voted for, up and down the ballot. US voters put Trump at the top and yes men in the house and senate.

Vote better next time, I guess.

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 18 points 22 hours ago

No US president is a peace dove. Between supporting proxie wars to police actions to declared war, they all end up getting people killed by bombs.

[–] Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz 14 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

I discovered this on another post comment but I think it belongs here more:

https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=nCP3LZoxABs

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[–] kayky@thelemmy.club 67 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Time to waste hundreds of billions defending israel while our infrastructure crumbles and our citizens still go without healthcare.

Again.

[–] dariusj18@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Search "Altlantic Trident 25"

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 275 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (20 children)

We just want fucking healthcare and affordable housing.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 6 points 12 hours ago

Other Americans just want fucking guns and affordable discrimination. It's a sad day.

[–] HistoryPug@lemmy.ml 4 points 15 hours ago

Best we can do is give more people PTSD and then deny them disability or treatment for it. America loves dead soldiers, we can't go too long without having a new batch.

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