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Take B12. :vegan-edge:
Is anybody actually getting hostile about that?
Eat chewy savory protein as much as you please, I ain't stop you. But my issue is implying these foods are a healthy option when there's no doubt that most fake meats are heavily processed, full of weird shit, and relatively unhealthy compared to some cooler vegan dishes.
I personally see this opinion pop up just about every time meat substitutes come up in conversation, including on hexbear.
And re: meat substitutes being 'full of weird shit' just comes off as silly when the majority of them are basically just fancy bread. Soy protein, wheat gluten and seasoning oooh so scary.
The line between "meat substitute" and "regular veggie dish" is kinda bullshit anyways:
Like, if I make my own seitan from scratch and use it in unique ways is that meat substitute?
If I make a roux, and make it salty and a little sour, is that a queso substitute or just a roux?
If I crumble firm tofu and pan fry it until it's a bit crispy, is that meat crumble substitute or is it just tofu crumbles? Am I sinning if I use tvp instead?
Makhani sauce uses cashew cream by default but if you take that same cashew cream in another dish, maybe you're a big faker.
How much squash do I have to put in my patty before it flips from "burger" to "veggie fritter?"
It's all silly.
Also, and this is a bit of a different issue, but there is absolutely no reason that "meat" has to mean animal flesh. Historically the word "meat" has been used to refer to all sorts of things. Nutmeat and sweetmeats are the two examples that spring to mind immediately, neither of which is dead animal. I support taking back the word "meat" from the carnists. Yeah, I eat meat, it's soy meat and it's delicious! No dead animal involved!
Historically the word "meat" has been used to refer to all sorts of things
The only modern use of the old definition is in mincemeat pie...
That being said, I think the chuds are gonna do a slogan of "put the meat back in mincemeat pie" or somethin', when someone tells them that fact...
Fake chicken is close enough for me. A proper beef substitute is a bit harder, imo.
Honestly the Carl's jr beyond famous star/ burger king impossible whopper basically taste the same as the normal in my mind. I've never done side by side though.
Unfortunately Burger King supports 
That's fine, Carl's jr is superior.
I used to live by BK but now they're all like 20 minutes away.