this post was submitted on 03 Jun 2025
682 points (97.2% liked)

World News

47230 readers
2067 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Archive article: https://archive.ph/LJPiZ

A new survey showing that 82 percent of Jewish Israelis support the expulsion of Gazans was met with disbelief among those who stubbornly believe that the extremists are outliers. But these trends are as consistent as they are shocking

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

There is no both siding this, the Zionists are genocidal and there are no good zionists. This should be shocking to nobody. Im Jewish and ill say this as many times as I need to

ANTIZIONISM IS NOT ANTISEMITISM

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Jamil@lemm.ee 57 points 3 days ago

This just in: The country that has been doing ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians for 77 years is still okay with doing ethnic cleansing.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago

You build a state out of colonialism, you get a state of colonialists.

[–] Vupperware@lemm.ee 41 points 3 days ago

They’ve literally been doing this shit since they pushed the Palestinians out of the way almost eighty fucking years ago. Of course the population is okay with it.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 65 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (26 children)

My understanding is that Israeli TV is hugely responsible for making this mainstream. Just like in Rwanda where radio played a huge role in the genocide.

It's almost as if genocide scholars have been warning about a series of patterns over the last couple of years...

load more comments (26 replies)
[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 44 points 4 days ago (1 children)

For years Israel has been running around the world, waving their foes statements about “pushing Israel into the sea” as a call to arms against atrocity.

And now here they are, committing that very atrocity. But genocide seems inevitable when your stated goal is to be an ethnostate.

Wow, highlighting the fact they're a genocidal theocratic ethnostate without highlighting the good things.

Like how they invented tomatoes hummus and fizzy water, or how good they are at exterminating the brutes!

Clearly just an antisemite. There's no behavior the jewish people could do that would be good enough for you, short of completely stopping the genocide¹, and abandoning their entire 5000 year old culture, which is suspiciously close to lemkin's original definition of genocide. Stopping the genocide is genocide. You people just cant stop wanting to genocide jews, can you? Antisemites make me sick.

¹which the hamas people are doing to themselves actually. Tge idf has never been outside the city of jerusalem, and actually mostly just makes music videos, check them out on social media!

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 127 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (8 children)

The Israeli media has been full of overt calls for and endorsements of just outright genocide for over a year now.

At one point a prime time media show was 'debating' just fucking nuking Gaza.

Israeli social media has also been absolutely full of average people with genocidal rhetoric for over a year.

... They just say it in Hebrew, not English... most of the time.

This isn't suprising to anyone who can use google translate, or read supplied English subtitles/captions.

[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (7 children)

Reading about this stuff on the Israeli lead news network KAN is... Interesting. When the complete eradication of Gazans is being talked about it's very blasé and never takes responsibility. For example, this report says Hamas are in fact the ones screwing up Gaza aid efforts, and this one richly claims that the IDF did not kill anyone at an aid site. The IDF alleges that they investigated themselves and found that they weren't guilty.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 4 days ago (7 children)

The entire last twoish years have have been doubly insane for people like myself, because:

Though I am not Jewish, my cousins all are. They are all secular, American, liberal to lefty Jews by the heritage and ethnicity of their father, and his culture that they maintain.

They are all against the genocide, but according to current, general, right wing sentiment... they either don't exist or are self hating.

I can only imagine this has all been even more insane for them.

Nearly every pro-Palestine protest on every campus in the US that I've read about or seem... has at bare minimum had sizeable numbers of Jewish Americans at it, if not being co-organized by them or headlining them as speakers.

... Meanwhile, I've been anti Zionist my whole life, and every single actual Israeli I've ever met has been a racist, anti-Islamic Zionist... and when I point this out, almost every white liberal or self described lefty has called me an antisemite.

Then on my own side of the family, my dad and my uncle just actually are racist anti-semites, making 'off color jokes' about Jews being greedy and money obsessed at fucking family gatherings literally in the faces of my cousins and their dad.

Oh well I guess?

Politics evolves to become defined by the hypocrises and contradictions no one is capable of having a rational discussion about.

load more comments (7 replies)
load more comments (6 replies)
load more comments (7 replies)
[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 87 points 4 days ago

As a Native American my heart goes out to all Palestinians effected by these ignorant Zionist we must be better than this we can be better than this.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (38 children)

as someone with Israeli friends, I always figured this to be the case. they bemoan having to think about bomb shelters because of the occasional rocket that gets fired over into israel. they legitimately believe that Muslim countries hate them, and Muslims in general want to kill them. they live in the Old testament of the Bible, and anything that happens to Gaza is the will of God.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 18 points 3 days ago (5 children)

they legitimately believe that Muslim countries hate them, and Muslims in general want to kill them

This is plausible, but not entirely without a reason. I stopped taking sides in this mess long ago.

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago

Jews and Muslims have had many extensive periods of peace living together (including in Palestine before the state of Israel). The story of Islamic-Jewish hostilities is actually fairly recent and shorter than you'd expect.

Antisemitism as we know it today is mostly a European export to the Middle East.

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (7 children)

“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.”

— David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938

load more comments (7 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (37 replies)
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 60 points 4 days ago

Shocking. Israel has successfully dehumanized the entire Palestinian population.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/israel-posts-video-saying-are-no-innocent-civilians-gaza-rcna157111

This was over a year ago:

"Israeli government accounts on the social media site X have been posting a video with a quote from a freed hostage, in which she says that “there are no innocent civilians” in Gaza."

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you know anything about the genocidal ideology of zionism, this should be absolutely no surprise. It's always been like this. Haven't people watched any interviews with zios? Don't y'all know any zios? These people are brainwashed racists at best.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I noticed on LinkedIn that a ton of my former colleagues from Israel are now in the US. I think shifting demographics as progressives leave are a bigger part of the story than the shifting opinions these stories have been about.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] propitiouspanda@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 days ago

I support expelling israelis.

[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 54 points 4 days ago

Absolutely disgusting. Our common ancestors are rolling over in their graves at their inhumanity.

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 50 points 4 days ago (12 children)

Say it loud for those in the back, it’s not just the leaders.

load more comments (12 replies)
[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago

Anyone surprised? Nasi state governed by nazis, who were elected by nazis thinking they are more than others. Fuck israel.

load more comments
view more: next ›