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[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (13 children)

What kind am I?

Not a neo liberal or a Tankie.

I'm in-between. I'm caring enough to not agree with Conservatives and want a change to the status quo. I'm educated enough to know how the world actually works and that things can't be free and other people won't do stuff for free. Capitalism has its place, but needs to be highly regulated.

[–] droans@midwest.social 9 points 2 days ago

Even Adam Smith was pretty clear what happens when capitalism is unregulated:

We rarely hear, it has been said, of the combinations of masters, though frequently of those of workmen. But whoever imagines, upon this account, that masters rarely combine, is as ignorant of the world as of the subject. Masters are always and everywhere in a sort of tacit, but constant and uniform combination, not to raise the wages of labour above their actual rate. To violate this combination is everywhere a most unpopular action, and a sort of reproach to a master among his neighbours and equals. We seldom, indeed, hear of this combination, because it is the usual, and one may say, the natural state of things, which nobody ever hears of...

The liberal reward of labour, therefore, as it is the necessary effect, so it is the natural symptom of increasing national wealth. The scanty maintenance of the labouring poor, on the other hand, is the natural symptom that things are at a stand, and their starving condition that they are going fast backwards.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 79 points 3 days ago (53 children)
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[–] Liberal_Ghost@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

I'm a leftist that has guns , and was raised in a very religious conservative family, then moved to being liberal, now I'm somhwere in between liberal ans leftist? I dont know what to can it. I dont like religions that try to force their views on me, I dont like capitalism and billionaires, I just want universal health care and basic human rights and liberties for EVERYONE.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 133 points 3 days ago (27 children)

Never ask a Lemming what kind of leftist they are, or what is the best Linux distro.

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[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (25 children)

Anti-Conservative

There is no such thing as liberalism — or progressivism, etc.

There is only conservatism. No other political philosophy actually exists; by the political analogue of Gresham’s Law, conservatism has driven every other idea out of circulation.

There might be, and should be, anti-conservatism; but it does not yet exist. What would it be? In order to answer that question, it is necessary and sufficient to characterize conservatism. Fortunately, this can be done very concisely.

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit:

There must be in-groups whom the law protectes but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

There is nothing more or else to it, and there never has been, in any place or time.

For millenia, conservatism had no name, because no other model of polity had ever been proposed. “The king can do no wrong.” In practice, this immunity was always extended to the king’s friends, however fungible a group they might have been. Today, we still have the king’s friends even where there is no king (dictator, etc.). Another way to look at this is that the king is a faction, rather than an individual.

As the core proposition of conservatism is indefensible if stated baldly, it has always been surrounded by an elaborate backwash of pseudophilosophy, amounting over time to millions of pages. All such is axiomatically dishonest and undeserving of serious scrutiny. Today, the accelerating de-education of humanity has reached a point where the market for pseudophilosophy is vanishing; it is, as The Kids Say These Days, tl;dr . All that is left is the core proposition itself — backed up, no longer by misdirection and sophistry, but by violence.

So this tells us what anti-conservatism must be: the proposition that the law cannot protect anyone unless it binds everyone, and cannot bind anyone unless it protects everyone.

Then the appearance arises that the task is to map “liberalism”, or “progressivism”, or “socialism”, or whatever-the-fuck-kind-of-stupid-noise-ism, onto the core proposition of anti-conservatism.

No, it a’n’t. The task is to throw all those things on the exact same burn pile as the collected works of all the apologists for conservatism, and start fresh. The core proposition of anti-conservatism requires no supplementation and no exegesis. It is as sufficient as it is necessary. What you see is what you get:

The law cannot protect anyone unless it binds everyone; and it cannot bind anyone unless it protects everyone.

Also, those who insist on political purity tests reveal themselves to be temporarily-inconvenienced-dictators-in-waiting.

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[–] Killercat103@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 day ago (16 children)

A libertarian myself thanks for asking.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

flexible on range of solutions for dealing with the billionaire problem

[–] Ordinary_Person@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm a mid 90s Liberal Party OF Canada Leftist. That used to mean center left and right leaning on a few fiscal issues. I have no idea what it means by today's standards.

Now it mean Oil and cute chaussette for the media

[–] Kickforce@lemmy.wtf 20 points 2 days ago

The kind that got chucked off reddit for being mean to Trump, Musk and Netanyahu.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (5 children)

“Ally? That’s a funny way to spell FASCIST!”

-the American left during the 24’ election

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[–] grte@lemmy.ca 81 points 3 days ago (7 children)
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[–] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Get your finger out of the trigger guard.

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[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 32 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I'm so tired of the labels, I just want things to be better for everyone

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