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So today I clicked a twitter link because companies like to use it for official announcements, only to be greeted with a login page. Was annoyed then I remembered nitter exists. It just prompted me to install Privacy Redirect which I should have done ages ago.

Github: https://github.com/SimonBrazell/privacy-redirect

Chrome Web Store: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/privacy-redirect/pmcmeagblkinmogikoikkdjiligflglb/related

Firefox Browser Add-ons: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/privacy-redirect/

Looks like twitter waited for the reddit API changes to do push this change to try to do it under the radar.

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[–] talos@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Omg, I went to twitter.com and it requires a login now. That's the end of that, I guess. Most people aren't going to sign up to see a random sentence written by some person that was linked to by some random website.

[–] tranceFusion@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are all the news articles with embedded tweet widgets busted now?

[–] NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just checked a random news article and embedded tweets seem to be working still. But when you click the tweet you get taken to the login page.

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[–] sven@l.mchome.net 23 points 2 years ago (4 children)

This is pretty terrible really. Governments, cities, states use twitter for alerts and news. Now I have to agree to be tracked and monetized to view information from my government. I think everyone needs to write to all your cities, states, schools, law enforcement etc and demand they stop using twitter for anything. Our taxes should not go to padding twitter's wallets.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Now that Twitter has become what it is, I'm somewhat offended that my local government makes announcements on it. Hopefully this will be an impetus for them to stop... although many agencies use Facebook too, and FB and IG have been this way for years.

[–] tvbusy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Lemmy is exactly what government bodies need. Anyone from other instances can see, vote and comment. They can limit sign up to only employees and their users immediately have an official seal of authenticity. @obama@whitehouse.gov would be so cool.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

They absolutely should be setting up lemmy or mastodon as official announcement sites. That would be a perfect platform.
I think they also want to be on twitter, fb etc for the distribution potential though.

[–] influence1123@psychedelia.ink 3 points 2 years ago

I think Mastadon might be better for that.

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[–] Godnroc@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I've worked in local level government communication. Most of the time your just trying to hit as many places as possible in a hopeless effort to keep an interested public informed. The price is usually low, the audience is there, and information can be duplicated to other platforms easily, so it generally makes sense to use social media.

That said, low engagement on a platform would be a great reason to consider cutting it out. A citizen with feedback is enough to spark the flame too.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

As much as I hate the idea of Yet Another Social Media App, I kind of wish there was some sort of official government-specific platform that was only available to state/local/federal government(s) or organizations for making important announcements. No memberships required (other than posters or commenters), no likes, upvotes, or retweeting or whatever, just postings of information that people can get to from anywhere. Something completely untied from any corporate entities.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They could easily have their own websites based on Mastodon or Lemmy, not federated with anything.

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[–] bighi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Brazilian government send SMS to people for alerts. It’s independent of apps, and everyone with a phone can get them.

Seems like a good solution for important warnings.

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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Is the suggestion here that Twitter now requires a login to even view a tweet?

[–] TheOneCurly@lemmy.theonecurly.page 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That's what I'm experiencing. Every tweet and even going to the main url results in a redirect to a log in splash page.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Well if that's the case Twitter is as dead to me.

Spez has talked about how he's trying to model Reddit on Musk's "success" with Twitter.

It would be hilarious if Musk set up Spez to take the publicity fall to cover Musk's plan to force Twitter for authenticated consumption only.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Twitter is way more prominent than reddit. I doubt that there's a secret plan

If anything, Splez is too dense to notice that Musk seems to be intentionally/unintentionally ruining Twitter. It's really hard to imagine how someone could look at "ad revenue down 70%" and think wow, that's what we need to emulate!

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[–] Ech@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's not a suggestion. It's what they're doing right now.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My statement is use of speech clarifying what @rooster_butt@lemm.ee is communicating, and its been confirmed as "yes".

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[–] Willer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

can you also tell me in what universe this wouldnt be a shotgun to the ~~knee~~ face?

[–] cerevant@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Yep. I wonder what this is going to do to their traffic. I know I’m not signing up.

I bet Reddit will follow suit.

[–] melonpunk@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Willer@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Is there a way to control the image size?

[–] zurohki@lemmy.fmhy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

There isn't an image size that makes Jeremy Clarkson look attractive, don't bother.

[–] melonpunk@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Good question, I have no idea. I wasn't even sure this was going to post. I just pasted the images in from the clipboard.

[–] Willer@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] banksymimosa@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can I make this image bigger?

Bigger than you're thinking right now.

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[–] sirtwinklebottom@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Fuck Twitter. Garbage anyway.

[–] donalonzo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The day I realized it was actively trying to make me furious by pushing notifications of incendiary tweets from people I didn't know existed or cared about writing about stuff I didn't find interesting but extremely toxic and offensive I stopped using it. It was before Elon took over, but when he did I deleted the account. It's such a toxic hellscape, I wish the official outlets I followed would just publish to Mastodon instead, but I'd rather just not see anything from that page, it's absolutely not worth it.

It's the sewage of the Internet, and the rats there brutally fight each other for the silliest of reasons.

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[–] Vipsu@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What makes this worse is that using Twitter pretty much requires one to give them your phone number. Accounts without one will often or eventually get locked for "suspicious activity" and given option to unlock the account by providing phone number.

So anyone thinking about creating throwaway account to browse twitter, don't bother.

[–] abaixodecao@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Can't believe I wasted 40 minutes on this, I shouldn't write this, but using Tor on Brave I was able to open an account without a phone number. Now I'll have to delete it...

[–] jegerlatvisk@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Thank god, I deleted my twitter account this week.

[–] cerevant@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The fediverse really needs to work on usability, but this is yet another example of why monolithic services can never be the long term solution.

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[–] rooster_butt@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

So this must be a regional thing since I can get around the login page using a VPN. My personal opinion on the matter is that I'm at least expecting backlash from governments since officials like using twitter for official announcements. I do not expect this playing well for twitter since they are holding a public forum hostage.

Is Nitter working for you? Having trouble with a number of hosts this AM

[–] melonpunk@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Wow, these companies are making it really easy for me to walk away. Thanks for the 15 years Twitter (I barely used you for the last 6 or so).

[–] Matharl@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Maybe users will stop posting link to this site now that a lot of people can’t see it.

I see this as a plus.

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[–] Nryanlol@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Why does the internet seem to just continue getting shittier

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[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I can't wait for this stubborn jackass to kill off twitter to the point it becomes an unrecoverable decline.

[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I never understood the appeal. I have friends that send me random twitter links and I'm like I don't understand wtf I'm looking at, it's difficult to tell who is talking to whom, and whatever it was isn't funny or interesting to begin with. I don't care what chucklefart69 has to say about a famous person. If I want to read the news, I'll read the news. I'm ok with not knowing about a major event breaking within the first 5 minutes of it happening.

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[–] TaraYazdiEnthusiast@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So are all social media companies racing to the bottom?

[–] axtualdave@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I think we're reaching that point in the technology cycle where the money people have finally realized that running a social media platform is essentially unprofitable. People absolutely loathe ads and go to extremes to block them, and legislative and regulatory controls are starting to squeeze the manipulative aspects of social media such that what few ads the platforms can serve aren't as relevant anymore, and the data they collect from their users is protected in more and more jurisdictions.

So they're bailing on the open platform idea. They're slapping paywalls up, putting things behind required-accounts, and trying to build a walled garden they can control.

I wish them the best. I remember what happened to Prodigy, CompuServer, and AOL.

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[–] SJ_Zero@lemmy.fbxl.net 2 points 2 years ago

Especially once you are mostly on alternative sites, privacy redirect is top tier.

[–] abaixodecao@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm in panic, here in Portugal now I can't read the President's and Prime Minister's tweets. I'm gonna kill myself! s/

[Edit:] Nitter instances aren't working, guess I'll have to delete my forgoten account in that shitty site.

[–] a253040@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago

I deleted my mostly unused account shortly after Musk started showing his crazy. Anything that makes it harder to use it accidentally is fine by me.

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