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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 14 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Just more displaying that the rich, and particularly rich people like trump, live in the land of no consequences. They make demands that others pay for, never themselves, and when underlings defy them they become furious. Walmart CEOs are underlings, now.

[–] BadlyTimedLuck@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

I hope this more of a "don't bite the hand that feeds you," and Trump recieves SOME kind of consequence. He's been a conman for years, and at some point, CEOs should be able to see that. Like, do they really think he has THEIR best interests in mind? We're lucky he's even accepting that one plane as a bribe, since I expected him to sell out for the price of a big mac with fries (no drink).

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago

The American Lukashenko supporters are clueless about tariffs. Oh the fuck well, let them pay more for products in every single red run welfare Oblast in the USA. Like many have typed, those prices are not going to decrease.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

Back to school prices are gonna see the most change.

[–] aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee 17 points 1 day ago

Man he really is the American lukashenko D:

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 66 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Walmart should put up price tags showing how much of the price is "Trump Tax".

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

they'd have to replace the price tag everyday, when trump decides he's gonna tantrum again and changes the tariffs

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[–] satanmat@lemmy.world 279 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Wow. I used to think he just couldn't stop lying about tariffs...

But now I'm convinced he has NO idea what they are or how they work... NONE

[–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was convinced of that from the start. The language he used, I'm pretty sure he's under the impression that the country you levy a tariff against is the one that pays it. Basically "make Mexico pay for the wall" part 2.

[–] satanmat@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

Yep. Somehow, someway; he got the impression that because "goods from China " get hit, that China pays to send it here...

And as someone else posted; he's surrounded by people who ONLY agree with him. None of his people are correcting him...

We're so boned

[–] ToadOfHypnosis@lemm.ee 174 points 1 day ago (3 children)

He is exceptionally stupid.

[–] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 141 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Donald Trump was the dumbest goddamn student I ever had." - Professor William T. Kelley, Wharton School of Business and Finance

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 54 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

“This guy is a fucking Moron…”

—Rex Tillerson, Trump’s handpicked (first) Secretary of State

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

and his dad the equally reprehensible fred trump, had to donate a significant amount to get him into his "2nd rate school"

[–] Blackout@fedia.io 81 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah everyone tries to convince me he's smart and the ignorance is an act but I don't buy it. He truly is mega dumb.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 61 points 1 day ago (13 children)

He's an idiot-savant. A total moron with a special talent for self promotion. Which it turns out gets you very far in life (along with the head start one gets being born wealthy).

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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

he treats them like his court cases, he thinks tariffs are a way to bully people to do what you want. he has no idea the economic implications of it. also hes doing it as a behest to putin.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I think he at least roughly understands the economic implications, he just doesn't care. He'll just crack to the rhetoric, blame everyone else for the problems, and assume his fan base will eat up every word and let him continue.

Falling that, he just goes all in on ignoring elections and count upon the system to let him do that like it's a woman with a pussy to grab.

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[–] YangChow@lemm.ee 31 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Why not refund the taxpayers cost of tariffs from the tariffs collected? Tariffs are being broken out on invoices, file the tariff tax as deductions on 1040’s. It would be a wash for the taxpayers.

[–] __Lost__@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago

If the tariffs are immediately refunded, why collect in the first place?

[–] pacology@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

The goal seems to be replacing of federal income tax with import tariffs (like it was in the 1800s). The flat rate they set could collect as much as the income tax if import levels stay the same. Also, some of the stats shared by the administration early on on collections per day would multiply up to the total income tax collected. Writing them off would be counterproductive.

The only downside with consumption taxes is that they are regressive. People in the lowest income levels will end up paying more percentage richer people because there is so much that rich people can consume from overseas vs poorer people.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 23 hours ago

Canada tried that with a carbon tax

People weren’t able to understand the two were related

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

That seems convoluted but also as stated it wouldn't be a wash.

A deduction means pretend that portion of income never existed and the taxable portion of it is not charged.

Then generally the deduction has to be above the standard deduction to make sense to use, and the standard deduction is just so high nowadays.

So if you claimed a hypothetical deduction of 1,000, then you reduce your tax burden by only 200 or so, assuming you otherwise had like 20 some odd thousand in deductions to get you close to the standard deduction.

The only way it would be a wash is if it were a refundable tax credit with no qualifications, and that almost never happens for anything. I could imagine a non refundable credit that would make it a wash for anyone with sufficient tax liability.

However, this would make the tariffs an utterly pointless needless complication, needing a whole lot more accounting by sellers and consumers just to get to a similar and simpler position of not doing the tariffs in the first place.

[–] TheBloodFarts@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago

Well you see the problem here is that you're using your brain and well we just can't be having that

[–] TheDeadlySquid@lemm.ee 54 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Anyone else suffering from faux rage exhaustion?

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[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 111 points 1 day ago

Walmart made BILLIONS OF DOLLARS last year, far more than expected.

Under Joe Biden's absolutely terrible, awful, most baddest saddest America-lastest economy?

[–] Nocomment@reddthat.com 79 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Dear 47, tariffs are essentially sales taxes based on origin rather than point of sale. If a business has, lets say, a 2.5% profit margin they cannot “eat” tariffs larger than that because to do so would defeat the purpose of being in business (to make profit) in the first place, and said business would soon be bankrupt. I know you know what that is, having numerous failed business’ yourself.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago

casinos were done on purpose to launder russian money through his properties.

I just looked earlier today at WalMart’s self- reported profit margin for FY 2024, and it was approximately 4.2%. I had much the same thought. Even if tariffs are only raised by 10% on their imported products, that has the potential to completely disappear their profits. I’m enough of a socialist-leaning person to need to point out this: The American conception of corporations only purpose being profit machines has only existed in its current form since he 1980s, and is not an absolute law of economics. However, I’m certain that Trump is only interested in making Trump look good.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wal-Mart just does not give Trump any respect. /s

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Does Walmart even wear a suit? A lot of people are saying they don't. Good people

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This asshole isn't dead yet?

[–] tonywu@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

The good die you, and pricks live forever.

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[–] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 87 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What the fuck do you think businesses are gonna do? Their costs went up. Planet Money podcast had an interview with a small business owner that had to pay the 145% tariff on her imports ordered before the tariffs went into effect. On a $30,000 shipment, that’s an extra $43,500. You think businesses are gonna keep prices the same and eat that? They will go bankrupt.

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[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (4 children)

If he's supposed to be such a great businessman, why is he angry over this? This is exactly what a business does in a tariff situation. No business willingly reduces its margins, it just passes the costs onto the customer.

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

He’s a narcissist. Walmart is making him look bad by highlighting something bad he’s done.

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