I have yet to see any place with a good hiring procedure, this nonsense included. People saying they work in HR should generally be looked at as if they just admitted to being in a cult, which is terrifying because it means cultists will be deciding whether you get to do the thing you do to keep from starving in the street.
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People saying they work in HR should generally be looked at as if they just admitted to being in a cult
I mean, what else do you have to evaluate a resume and some thinly sourced references except chicken entrails and prayer? It's not exactly a hard science.
People saying they work in HR should generally be looked at as if they just admitted to being in a cult
I've never heard it described like this but you nailed it.
Why do all these shitheads want to be my mommy and daddy as well as my employer? I bet this moron is one of those alpha MAGA types who rails against the nanny state but loves being cuckolded and spanked in literally every other context. Fucking weirdos.
as a switch, there is nothing at all wrong with enjoying spanking or being spanked.
shut the fuck up marco
I’ll probably get a lot of downvotes for this, but why exactly should I send a thank-you email?
What about the potential employer – why don’t they send one to me? I took the time to prepare my application, sent them all my documents, and showed up for the interview.
I’m not begging for a job – I’m applying for one. They’re looking for someone who will generate more value for the company than they’ll pay in salary. That’s a business transaction, not charity.
So again – why should I be the one to send a thank-you email?
Personally, I think it’s enough to thank them in person during the interview.
Why would you get downvoted in a community called LinkedIn Lunatics where we are expressly making fun of the content of the post?
I'll probably get down voted for this opinion, but the earth is round and orbits the sun.
False! The Earth and Sun orbit the center of gravity between the two of them!
False! They all exist in a complex system of gravitational pull where all bodies, not just these two, have differing degrees of influence on each other dictated by distance and mass!
The barycenter of the earth-sun orbit is within the surface of the sun, therefore the earth is understood to orbit the sun.
The JUPITER-Sun orbit barycenter, however, is outside the surface of the sun.
I liek spec
Downvoting you specifically for saying you’ll get downvotes for expressing a rational thought in response to a linkedinlunatic post. How dare you.
But also you’re right, bullshit tests should be called out as bullshit and employers should be shamed for pulling stupid shit like this. This is a business transaction where I’m selling you my time and skills for less than their worth so you can exploit that for a profit. You(the employer) should be fucking thanking me.
100%. I’ve never heard of this practise - maybe it’s an American thing?
They tell us to do it in Canada too. But seriously, if you hiring me depends on me sending a mail to kiss your ass, fuck off, I take back my application.
God I love society programming humans to be ok with corporate subjugation of our species.
No, it's not.
That being said, I've interviewed dozens, if not hundreds, of candidates, and have received thank-you notes from a handful of them. These notes are not part of the rubric used to evaluate them for the role. They also tend to come from weaker performers, so if anything, such a note is a red flag.
When I was growing up in the US in the '80s and '90s, our business classes did tell us it was proper send a thank-you letter a couple of days after an interview. This was, of course, in the days before email and workers' rights got even more abysmal in the US. Not sure if this one data point helps.
But they want you to beg.
The more you beg for the job, the more it signals to a prospective employer that you need it and don't have alternatives. That means they can string you out much easier.
Desperation facilitates exploitation.
It's often far less malicious. People don't get positions of mediocre responsibility because they're evil. Usually they're just mid managers who need more help and want to pick people who actually want to work, and their own job rides on making a good decision.
Because ya'll, you would be astonished how many shitty people show up for shitty interviews.
I was taught that the point of a thank you note is to get your name in front of them one more time. It's a form of advertising; they might have done 5 interviews that day, 5 the previous day, and have 5 more scheduled for tomorrow. You want them to remember you over the next person who has the same qualifications.
Also a final opportunity to emphasize anything that went well in the interview, or downplay/explain anything that didn’t.
Anyone who’s judgementally dismissing applicants for not sending a thank you is an asshole, but this does not change the fact that sending a thank you is a good idea if you actually want to get the job.
I honestly use it as a passive aggressive "hey it's been a week and I haven't heard from you, am I still being considered." email.
It's perfect for that. Also, "did you lose my fucking email, you incompetent boob? Here it is again." but couched as politeness.
I might be old school but I see nothing wrong with a little politeness, especially if it gets my foot in the door. But then again, I’m not going to continually kiss someone’s ass for what should be a mutually beneficial situation.
On the other side...
I'm so dead sick of those "thank you for applying, you are so awesome and amazing! But we went with another guy" emails
The alternative is to not know, I don't care if they send a nicely worded rejection over ghosting.
A lot of bitter job-hunters in this post.
Yeah, that's what happens after a few hundred ai stirred rejection letters
I'd rather have that email than being ghosted by the company you applied at. Which happens more often than not.
At least it’s something to let you know. I got down to a final 2 interview and haven’t heard anything from the company in a week even though I thought I had pretty good chances. I’d rather take a wishy washy answer over no answer at all.
Ya pass
As a hiring manager, I can confidently say, please do not send me any more email - even if it is to thank me.
Seriously, who wants yet another email to have to skim and delete, besides narcissistic interviewers I guess
It’s all part of the test I guess. No need to get angry, it’s just part of the game and we are usually not the ones setting up the rules.
Not until you succeed at the game that is
Those that send a thankyou email fail the test and have to work for that guy.
A divorce attorney posting this. I get the feeling most of his clients are scumbags trying to get out of their responsibilities.
While this person definitely sounds like a giant douche, it is in fact best practice to send a thank you email after an interview.
Yeah, it's unfortunately good advice. Hearing it from a hiring manager in a "dance my puppet" way makes me want to vomit though.
The asshat in OP's image isn't representational of people who hire people in the average, every-day world.
In reality, most hiring is done by mid-level managers who have to interview dozens of people a week on top of doing their own work, and it's tiring and you don't get paid extra for it, and if you pick the wrong candidate your own ass is canned.
Yah, it really does help your chances if you show even a shred of actual desire to work there.