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[–] dtlm@feddit.org 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

In Spain its also forbidden to own beaches. You can wander any beach with no restriction.

[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

In Estonia, one may not prevent passage along the beach of a body of water (sea, lake, river).

Some land owners try. It's legal to ignore them and travel along the shore, but if a river valley is densely settled and every tenth person has built a fence too far, it becomes somewhat harder to fish there.

As for dry land - if it's not fenced in, then from dawn to dusk, without damaging crops or landscape, one is allowed to roam on foot, with a bike or boat, on skis or riding a horse.

Unless the owner forbids:

  • by default, it's allowed to set up a tent for up to 24 hours
  • by default, it's allowed to pick the fruit and herbs of naturally growing plants and mushrooms (not planted or sown) and fallen wood

Making a fire is another matter. For this, getting the agreement of the owner is required. It's also totally forbidden by fire departments at certain times.

[–] NIB@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Some countries have it, not all or even most. Sweden is not representative of the entirety of Europe.

In Greece you arent even allowed to camp outside of very limited designated camp sites(though laws in Greece are more like suggestions, so many people still go camping in forests).

[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tbf, from first hand experience i can say people are fucking animals when it goes to camping. We used to have places where it was tolerated but people shat and pissed everywhere. Left their garbage behind, food waste attracted animals etc.

People are unbelievable stupid, so they kinda had to ban it and force that ban.

[–] exasperation@lemm.ee 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i can say people are fucking animals when it goes to camping

It took me reading the rest of your comment, and a lot of thought, before I realized you were using the word "fucking" as some kind of intensifier instead of as the word for "having sex with."

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Same. I was like, wow, that's really bad behavior while camping.

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In Greece you arent even allowed to camp outside of very limited designated camp sites

Same in Germany

though laws in Greece are more like suggestions

Not same in Germany πŸ˜…

[–] shekau@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Where would you even camp in Germany be fr

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 3 points 11 hours ago

There's plenty of forests and countryside where you could pitch a tent just fine. At worst, you'd have to talk to a farmer to ask if you can pitch your tent on their land.

I live in Bavaria so probably on a mountain

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is the right to roam really worth the loss of the fundamental freedom to shoot someone who steps on your lawn?

[–] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Absolutely not!

*continues polishing automatic, sawed-off, pistol grip shotgun

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

My wrist hurt reading that

I've actually shot one and while it was weird and uncomfortable, the recoil wasn't that bad. Owning one is kinda stupid though.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

The reason people don't like people wandering onto their land is the usa....is getting sued. The amount of lawyers here which will take a case for anyone or any reason is insane. Even if the person knows they won't win, you who are getting sued, is going to lose money and time because you're going to need to pay a lawyer to make sure you don't lose your clothes by the sueing party.

It sucks, thankfully we have a ton of parks...for now.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

England didn't even when part of the EU.

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

England has limited right to roam plus public right of way. This effectively means that most land is accessible one way or another.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The vast majority of land isn't open access though. Most woodlands and fields are privately owned and you are not allowed to walk through them.

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

We have public right of way, so you can definitely walk through them.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Only if there is a public footpath through it. Otherwise you are trespassing if you don't have the land owners permission

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Why would you walk over an overgrown field?

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

You would typically walk around the edge of it, but you don't have permission to do that either and we don't have the right to roam here. Also not all land is agricultural fields, pasture and woodland for example.

[–] calum@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago

And camper vans are ruining that

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

I know, this is why I said England rather than UK. Not sure on Wales/NI. Either way, not really a practical option to get there.

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You have the right to roam. We have the right to organize a nazi party. Which society is freer? /s

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

You do not have the right to organise a nazi party. You only have two parties, no others are allowed. One of them accidentally turned nazi. That is something completely different than "organize a nazi party".

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You can organize any party you want. Only one of two has a chance of winning

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 2 points 11 hours ago

I that same sense me and my wife have a right to get pregnant, but I got my tubes tied.

[–] fdrc_lm@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In Italy we have both so, take that I guess πŸ™ƒπŸ₯²

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 6 points 1 day ago

So do the Germans now

[–] Lemmist@lemm.ee 13 points 2 days ago (4 children)

English title and German text? That's bad. You shouldn't do that. Go stay in the corner.

[–] lesatur@lemmy.wtf 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What exactly are you talking about?

The video is from an American expat living in Germany with her family. Her video is originally in English.

YouTube started a feature where they auto translate videos to your assumed language. Might that be the case here?

[–] NotLemming@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

You forgot Austrian woman... Singing in English.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 day ago

Sprich Deutsch du Hurensohn!

[–] Tiger@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Great content, as someone who β€œstealth camps” often I would love that openness. Thank you for sharing.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The right to roam specifically does NOT include camping though.

The video said in some Nordic countries it does, you just can't be in close proximity to the land owners house.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No one will report you roaming if you open carry. /s

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 1 points 21 hours ago

Except for those who open carry too.