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Meta/Instagram launched a new product called Threads today (working title project92). It adds a new interface for creating text posts and replying to them, using your Instagram account. Of note, Meta has stated that Threads plans to support ActivityPub in the future, and allow federation with ActivityPub services. If you actually look at your Threads profile page in the app your username has a threads.net tag next to it - presumably to support future federation.

Per the link, a number of fediverse communities are pledging to block any Meta-directed instances that should exist in the future. Thus instance content would not be federated to Meta instances, and Meta users would not be able to interact with instance content.

I'm curious what the opinions on this here are. I personally feel like Meta has shown time and time again that they are not very good citizens of the Internet; beyond concerns of an Eternal September triggered by federated Instagram, I worry that bringing their massive userbase to the fediverse would allow them to influence it to negative effect.
I also understand how that could be seen to go against the point of federated social media in the first place, and I'm eager to hear more opinions. What do you think?

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[-] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

I think it's dumb to defederate just because there's a big company behind it. With something like Threads We've got a gateway for people to get into decentralisation and the fediverse.

I brought up threads to my significant other the other day and it's the first time she was like "oh that's neat" when trying to get her involved with such things. I really want this activitypub backed stuff to become the next internet and I think it's really dumb to gatekeep it by defederating.

I love Lemmy, but I'm more likely to get friends and family onto threads than I am this or mastadon so if we defederate I guess I'll have to find some place else or bite the bullet and host my own private server.

[-] pretzel@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

I logged back into Twitter for the first time in a couple days, and I just saw a TON of people I follow posting their Threads account. It kinda sucks that if the instance I'm on defederates from Threads, I just won't be able to follow all those people I know and WANT to follow.

I could try and find an instance that doesn't defederate from Threads, but that's probably not gonna be easy. And I definitely don't want to use the platform myself.

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[-] icogniito@vlemmy.net -1 points 1 year ago

I think it's incredibly important to federate with Meta! If we want the benefits of this tech to increase we need larger platforms to join in on the action.

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[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago

AOL is ruining the Internet!

I favor user choice. The more options people have, the better. If users want to use threads what do I care? That's their problem. It's not our job to police what other people want, nor to "punish" them for making decisions we don't like.

Federate with them so long as the service meets standards for quality (no spam, no bot farms, no harassment, etc.). Some of those users will switch to other fediverse servers once they learn more about it.

[-] greensky@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago

I am completely against defederating

[-] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Facebook (meta) is going to try to buy market share into something that isn't monetizable. I don't see the point in defederating from them because they will just do it again and again secretly until one of their instances has some success. All you are really doing by defederating from them is setting up future scenarios where instances will start accusing each other of being meta shills, which would mostly just ruin the fediverse if everyone defederates from everyone. The existential threat to the fediverse is the fediverse itself. These companies are competing for eyeballs, and killing the fediverse would drive users to other monetized platforms. Sure you can defederate from the instances they admit they are running, but they and every other social media company are probably here already or will be soon. I wouldn't worry about it. Just keep meming and kicking out the Nazis.

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