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Instead of leaving Xitter, they left Mastodon. Proton's trend is not inspiring confidence and this feels like another step backwards.

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[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Guess I made the right choice to leave Proton.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 days ago (11 children)

Looks like Tuta’s getting my business now.

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[–] RoyaltyInTraining@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wish VPS providers didn't commonly block email ports. Self hosting seems like the only way to stay in control

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

It's understandable though, they just don't want to deal with email spammers.

[–] zarlin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 3 days ago (2 children)

At least they are still on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/proton.me

But a true fediverse presence would be better

[–] sonalder@lemmy.ml 35 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Bluesky is not much better than X despite it claiming to

[–] Invertedouroboros@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's... better in the sense that you don't have right wing weirdos all over the place. But technically? Organizationally? Feels like we're on track to replay the same exact shit over again. It feels like people just aren't learning the lessons they should from the Twitter takeover.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Bluesky can be taken over by a billionaire. The fediverse cannot. Bluesky is just another Musk waiting to happen.

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Why do you keep adding that license to all your posts? You're like those boomers on Facebook that fell for that "Facebook doesn't own my photos cause I say so" meme.

No AI is gonna pay attention to whatever this is.

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[–] WFloyd@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (7 children)

If you're looking to shake up your email provider in the wake of this, I highly recommend getting a custom domain name, whatever provider you choose. Cloudflare sells domains at cost. Get a not-embarrasing .com of your own, and then you can move email providers in future without losing continuity. Proton allows exporting .eml files, which you can then import into your next provider. Or just keep in cold storage and declare email bankruptcy. Once you have a custom domain, you can use unique emails for all your services by setting up a catchall address. This will at least impede credential stuffing attacks, and let you know who sold/leaked your address if you do get spam.

I personally left Proton a month or so ago after the last bit of drama, in part out of principle, but also because their offering is just really expensive for my use case: I just want email, on a budget, with reasonable privacy. Plus I was tired of not having IMAP support and being locked into their clients. Moved to a Zoho business account (for now) and have been happy for the $12/yr. I already had a domain name, but they typically run <$20/year too.

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[–] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Ugh, I use proton for VPN and email. Any suggestions for decent VPN at this point?

[–] plixel@programming.dev 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I've used Mullvad for a couple of years now and they're great.

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[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I’m a proton user but I’m out of the loop. Please paste link or give me the tl/dr?

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Here's one archive reddit thread proton responded with that has since been edited to remove the comment.

https://archive.ph/quYyb

There's also a medium article from a random user that keeps being reposted to defend him. https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e

But, it leaves out that Gail Slater left the FTC to became vice-president for legal and regulatory policy for the Internet Association which is a lobbying group for companies like Google, Amazon, eBay, and Facebook.

The Internet Association—a trade group for big technology companies such as Google, Facebook, and Amazon—spent nearly $176,000 to lobby the California legislature last quarter, according to the Washington Post. It is now running misleading ads on social media asking Sacramento lawmakers to weaken the law.

The group claims that surveillance-based advertising technology, which slurps up and broadly spreads consumers’ personal data without their knowledge, should be exempted from the CCPA. In truth, surveillance-based adtech is one of the worst privacy hazards that the law was designed to stop. It also provides little benefit to online publishers, and erodes trust between companies and their consumers.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/09/lawmakers-must-not-let-internet-association-weaken-california-consumer-privacy-act

Which is a pretty big omission if the argument the founder/CEO made hinges on trying to make people believe Gail Slater having been on the FTC means she fights for little tech.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago

Follow us on Reddit

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[–] SexDwarf@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Honest, stupid question: Why exactly is this such a big deal to so many of you? (I don't use Mastodon.)

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