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I am shocked by this - the quote in below is very concerning:

"However, in 2024, the situation changed: balenaEtcher started sharing the file name of the image and the model of the USB stick with the Balena company and possibly with third parties."

Can't see myself using this software anymore...

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[–] solomon42069@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I knew that UI had something to hide!

Never trust an overly fancy UI...

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

nah, plenty of good stuff with good ui.

balena had effects and stuff but a pretty tasteless gui tbh, and ads promoting other shit...

[–] brickfrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

That's interesting, apparently it was mentioned on github but nothing seems to have changed in the end

https://github.com/balena-io/etcher/issues/3784

Haven't used that software in a long time but maybe there's an opt-out somewhere during runtime? Although I don't see why a user needs to be required to opt out of nonsense like this when just writing firmware to a USB disk.

Only ever touched balenaEtcher when some project or distro recommended it. Overall prefer Rufus for this sort of thing when working on Windows.

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[–] renzev@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I remember a while back, years before this surfaced, there was a thread on /g/ with a group photo of Balena's employees and a caption like "why does it take so many people to develop an electron wrapper around dd". Obviously it was low effort engagement bait (balena does much more than etcher), but the comments were full of people calling the company a glowie honeypot and the like. Moral of the story: Trust the schizos, they sense spyware form lightyears away.

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[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 33 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Sudo dd if=tails.iso of=/dev/sdb

[–] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 41 points 2 days ago (4 children)

bash: Sudo: command not found

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[–] mcx808@feddit.uk 10 points 2 days ago

Not used it since I discovered this nonsense. Shows how seriously they take security. https://github.com/balena-io/etcher/issues/3410

[–] lime@feddit.nu 30 points 2 days ago (5 children)

i still don't understand why anyone would use etcher. it's an electron wrapper over dd. it's 80MB where rufus is 1.5. when it appeared there were already other programs that did its job better.

[–] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I like clicking buttons that have a text on them saying what they do instead of trying to memorize a gajillion terminal commands and flags where I have to enter more commands and flags to see what they do.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 days ago

plus it's some some sanity checks like not showing you your system drives. Or warning you when the drive you are about to nuke is suspiciously large and maybe not the usb drive you actually want to use.

This is basically the main feature. Stopping you from fatfingering the wrong drive

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[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Rufus seems to be just for Windows and dd does not have a gui

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[–] QualifiedKitten@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I used it because that's what the instructions on the Linux Mint website for creating a bootable USB stick from Windows say to do.

I have no clue what "electron wrapper", "dd", or "rufus" are. I'm trying to learn more, but can't learn it all in one day.

https://linuxmint-installation-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/burn.html#in-windows-mac-os-or-other-linux-distributions

[–] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

weird that the installation guide is hosted on a separate website that hasn't been updated in eight years. that's irresponsible of them. anyway rufus is a better version of etcher that you can download for windows.

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[–] kepix@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

have they tried also tracking for errors, cause it fucks up every second image unlike rufus

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Truth. Etcher is garbage. Rufus is king.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago (9 children)

what is a good one to use, is there something like rufus on linux

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I just use Gnome Disks for convenience over dd.

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[–] Majestic@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Yet another reason for people to run a default prompt (deny until prompt answer) firewall.

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[–] filister@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (7 children)
[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Good luck with the binary blob!

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I thought the binary blob thing was explained?

Basically UEFI booting requires shims and those need to be signed so the Ventoy author is re-using the ones from Fedora and OpenSUSE. This can be verified by comparing hashes, which the author of that comment shows how to do.

This whole thing seems to come down to people freaking the F out because they don't understand how the software works and the Author of the software is currently PO'd off at the community and stopped answering questions.

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[–] BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz 20 points 2 days ago (4 children)

For some more context:

https://lemmy.one/post/19193506

💀💀 seems like dd commands and gnome's MultiWriter might be the only ways to flash stuff on linux

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[–] N0x0n@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 days ago

I tried belenaEtcher once on my Mac... And it seemed to me more like a spyware than an actual software, I was a bit confused and never used it again.

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