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So a pretty general article but this part stood out to me:

in vintage Lambie style she warned him not to "suck up".

"[America] need[s] Australia more than what we need them, and they need our critical minerals. So, if Trump wants to play with Australia, I suggest you start getting your cowboy hats on," Lambie said.

"… Don't play bloody Trump's bluff. Don't play it. You don't move Albo. Don't you move on him. Don't you dare. Don't suck up."


Why does she think they rely on us more than them?

Average Australian has an iphone, uses facebook/instagram/whatsapp/facebook messenger/marketplace, google, gmail and youtube, and all its services along with Apple/Microsoft, most corporates are damn near 100% Microsoft, Microsoft Windows on Microsoft laptops with Microsoft Teams and Microsoft Edge and MIcrosoft Office365, all our movies are American, all our top hit singles in music are American, TV shows, netflix, Food with McDonalds, KFC, products with Amazon, Amazon prime etc Walk around a shopping centre and count the NBA/NFL/American tshirts

Why does she think Americans rely on us more than us on them? We are deeply embedded in America at this point

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[–] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 2 points 12 hours ago

How about the government and the different departments move away from big corporations like Microsoft and ditch Windows, Office, Teams etc and go for open source programs?

We're deeply embedded, yes, but we'd be able to drop them just like that if we really tried. We're just too happy with the status quo to do anything about it.

[–] kudra@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm encouraging every little one of us to stop sending money to US companies wherever possible. People here already are likely to be less dependent on US digital services, but pay attention. Support Fedi servers in AU or EU. Kick big tech to the curb. Think about where stuff comes from. There's some things very hard to give up but people can live quite fine without Bezos Musk and Zuckerberg. Fuck all of them.

[–] TinyBreak@aussie.zone 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

we need an aussie iphone! "Hey C***, play Land Down Under on music" "yeah nah C***, I dont see an alarm called Land Down Under"

[–] kudra@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I would buy the shit out of this

[–] TinyBreak@aussie.zone 3 points 3 days ago

Good! Cause we've got C*** pay! And a revolutionary new budgeting feature where the C*** voice assistant calls you a choice swear word for spending too much money.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Why tf if lambo going off at albanese when dutton is halfway up the fucker's anal cavity and butrowing deeper

[–] TassieTosser@aussie.zone 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Because Albo is currently in power?

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 0 points 4 days ago

...do you know how the house of representatives works?

[–] cloudhands@lemmy.ca 14 points 5 days ago

Being cut off by the US isn’t a thing. These US businesses operate in other countries solely to extract revenue from their governments and consumers. We (Canadian here) should be so lucky to have them disappear so we can build economic and cultural independence. Such a change will not be made by the US. Instead, we cut them off.

[–] RedCarCastle@aussie.zone 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think most of the stuff you listed, would at worst be a medium to high inconvenience, certainly nothing that's going to shut down the country if it ever got down to it

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Most of them I want gone. From that list, I only use one or two Google/YouTube products, and am forced on a couple of the social medias only for specific event chatrooms.

You're right, it's cultural dominance and propaganda, not reliance. They benefit from it more than we do.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Most of them I want gone

Same, I'm down to just Youtube and Iphone as the two things I could not replace...but how would the rest of Australia do

How would corporate Australia handle it if Trump did some truly insane things like an export tax on all Microsoft products +100% or banning American software in Australia?

He's saying he wants to make Canada the 51st state of America so I'm not sure where the stupidity of him ends

How quickly would we go as a nation from Yeah Fuck Trump! to nooo don't take my facebook!

[–] mranachi@aussie.zone 4 points 4 days ago

Perhaps I am delusional, but I still hope that we are contrary and proud enough of a country to take whatever America can dish out to not be publicly humiliated into submission.

Obviously there are a multiple of less public submissions we've made over the last century, but I still have hope we can turn it around.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Software may be a bad example given we're the biggest digital pirates on the planet

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 0 points 4 days ago

Australia? We couldn't possibly be. imma have to demand evidence.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 11 points 5 days ago (3 children)

American social media movies sports etc is a soft power tool. They lose more by cutting us off than we do.

Their are 3 countries with rare earth minerals China, Australia, and greenland. Australian companies own most of the greenlandian rare earth mines plus I doubt Greenland is feeling inclined to help America take their resources.

Most of out trade is with China so us cutting us off has very little impact on our trade. We are in a highly advantageous strategic position as we are the only land mass in the area. The us needs military bases in Australia to mai twin their killchains. The us bases on our soil are critical for all us warfare in the middle east (Israel, Afghanistan, Iran, etc).

The us government literally couped our government when their bases on OUR land where threatened (google our man kurr).

Yes they can fuck us. But we can fuck em back wayyy harder.

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 7 points 5 days ago

Their are 3 countries with rare earth minerals

There are more, and I don't know any specific REM primarily in those three countries. But yeah, they're three of the more important ones, alongside USA, India, Brazil, Russia and Paraguay.

Most of out trade is with China so us cutting us off has very little impact on our trade.

I think 'very little' is exaggerating (apparently 11% of imports and 5% of exports), but yep, we have other options if push comes to shove.

+1 for the soft power tools being their benefit rather than ours. +1 for us hosting critical intel bases.

[–] prex@aussie.zone 6 points 5 days ago

Despite their name there are rare earth mineral deposits in many countries. Most rare earth metals were discovered in Scandinavia leading to elements like, well Scandium. Economically extracting those deposits is another question but we seem pretty good at digging.

[–] shads@lemy.lol 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

You know I was thinking that rents have been climbing throughout the whole country. Maybe the government needs to take into account that Trump and his cronies are out there ratcheting up tensions internationally and posturing as bullies on a global stage, then apply a small rent increase on US bases on our soil. A lazy hundred billion or so for Pine Gap should cover a lot of trade shortfall and somewhat compensate for the extra risk we are shouldering. When Trump calls to posture about it tell him we will increase troops on the border to prevent fentanyl and crack down on the cartels, then offer him the same price and watch him Art of the Deal™ that into a negotiating victory for himself.

[–] InsurgoFormica@aus.social 1 points 4 days ago

@Eyekaytee but, is he unpopular?

[–] platypusparent@aus.social 1 points 5 days ago

@Eyekaytee let's hope there are still enough aussie battlers who believe in a fair go..