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Next time you don't want to update your operating system to do the same things on the Internet you did 5 years ago, #Firefox is your friend.

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[–] splendoruranium@infosec.pub 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sorry but I do not understand your post. What do you mean by this?

[–] phonemh4@social.vivaldi.net -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

@splendoruranium

Most browsers are built upon open-source #Chromium which is made obsolete while #Firefox still updates.

Epic, Edge, Chrome, Brave, Opera, #Vivaldi, Iron, etc. They're all Chromium.

[–] splendoruranium@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're Chromium alright. But what do you mean by it being "obsolete"? Is there some kind of link to a news site reporting this that I missed in your post? And what does this have to do with not updating operating systems?

[–] phonemh4@social.vivaldi.net -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@splendoruranium

An OS becomes obsolete when you can't update browsers in spite of 'official' support (which typically ends earlier).

All Chromium-based browsers are made obsolete at the same time.

If you can still use Firefox, your old OS still has life.

[–] splendoruranium@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

An OS becomes obsolete when you can’t update browsers in spite of ‘official’ support (which typically ends earlier).

Surely that only applies to operating systems that are built around browsers, like Chrome OS. Which other OS needs a browser in order to function?

All Chromium-based browsers are made obsolete at the same time.

How? When? How could a FOSS project with Billions of users possibly ever become obsolete? Is this just some kind of thought experiment?

[–] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I think they mean getting online in an OS that no longer supports (or rather isn't supported by) the latest version of chromium.

That said, going online with an outdated/unsupported OS isn't a great idea even if Firefox does still support it.

And from what I'm seeing the latest Firefox system requirements are very similar to the Chrome requirements too.

[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm confused. Does the Firefox no more rely on syscalls, system libraries?

[–] phonemh4@social.vivaldi.net 0 points 1 year ago

@lnxtx

This is not a technical discussion. We can't use modern Chromium including #VivaldiBrowser in out-dated OS while Firefox still works.

Other compatibility discrepancies will be minor.

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Uh, is this an ad? On an instance for the program being advertised? People don't really talk like this.

[–] phonemh4@social.vivaldi.net -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] phonemh4@social.vivaldi.net -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

@agent_nycto

Firefox because it works

#VivaldiBrowser because it looks nice & Linux is better for web browsing

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I mean if you're trying to annoy your customers and fans then I suppose that it works, sure.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Agree to disagree. I use Firefox and I don't like it. I'm a taboholic and the tabs don't layer. Leaving YouTube up makes it run real slow and I have to close it and open it again. Firefox always seems to be one of the browsers that's not compatible with some websites. Every now and then I get a tab that opens, especially when I restart, telling me about some feature. And that's just the stuff I can think of off the top of my head. Brave gets a lot of crap on this platform, but I never had any of these problems. Why do I use it? Because they all seem to suck. Chrome is just Google. It's very secure except from the worst offender. Brave is a scam. Edge is...well Edge. Mulvad didn't work for me because I like to come back to where I left off when I shut down and I guess that doesn't go with it's secure nature. It's frustrating.

Got any other suggestions?

[–] mrvictory1@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

tabs don’t layer.

there is vertical tab support now, if that's your thing.

Leaving YouTube up makes it run real slow

Switch to mobile website with a user agent, YT desktop is heavy even on chromium.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I looked and I simply can't find this anywhere. In the distant past I had a browser that made a second row of tabs if it filled the screen horizontally. Strangely, I thought it was Firefox, but it was a while ago. So I'm not sure. I don't want them vertically, I want the tabs to wrap if I have too many so I don't have to scroll left and right.

Also I think it's funny that I gave a few reasons why I disagree. I think people went," that's a cogent, well thought out argument." Down vote! LOL.

[–] phonemh4@social.vivaldi.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@Professorozone

My suggestion is every browser is a compromise, so for all but the lightest users, we need more than one. #Firefox is unique not being Chromium.

Because Firefox is not Chromium, I can use it on old computers made obsolete. Eg:

Win 7 ends at Chrome 109.
Ubuntu 16 ends at Chrome 106.

(Chromium version = Chrome version)

My Firefox is new if not the latest in those OS.