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Hi All,

Some sad news, but it has become apparent in order to safeguard the longevity of this site, there are no options left other than to cease allowing people from the United Kingdom to access Lemmy.zip.

Just to reassure everyone else right at the start - this ONLY affects users from the UK accessing Lemmy.zip. There is no effect on everyone else, and nothing in your Lemmy experience will change.

Due to the implementation of the Online Safety Act, we will be restricting access to Lemmy.zip to UK users starting 15th February 2025 —one week from today.

Why is this happening?

Lemmy.zip is hosted in Finland, and we have always strived to operate with respect for privacy and in line with all applicable laws. However, the UK’s Online Safety Act presents significant legal and operational challenges for small, independent fediverse sites, just like this one. The Act’s vague and overbearing requirements, combined with the potential for disproportionate and extreme fines, force us to make this decision to protect both the site and its users.

This law impacts a wide range of content with vague or conflicting definitions, and as a volunteer-run site, we cannot ensure full compliance. We do not wish to compromise your privacy or force you to verify your identity through intrusive age checks, which is the only method allowed under the Act. Therefore, we have no choice but to block access from the UK.

This won't impact on federation, nor accessing the communities from an instance that tries to comply with (or ignores) the Act. Obviously if you're from any other country in the world that isn't the UK, this won't apply to you at all.

If this affects you, then you are able to export your data (subscriptions etc) from your profile settings, and import them on to another instance (Feddit.uk is a good shout for brits!)

Unfortunately this is also brought about by my personal circumstances as the site owner - I'm not in a position to just ignore the Act like many are. Complying with the act would mean we would either have to implement Age Verification for all users to access the site, or we would have to disable NSFW entirely, which means communities that use NSFW tags for spoilers or content warnings also wouldn't be accessible.

For those curious, UK users will instead be directed to this page when they try access the site.

This has been a really hard decision to make, and I fear many more fediverse sites that are somehow linked to the UK will need to take this step in order to protect themselves.

If this is overturned by the courts in the UK, then the block will be removed as soon as possible. I have my fingers crossed.

Happy to answer any questions in the comments.

Demigodrick.

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[–] swizzlestick@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just a thought - I'd love to see a side-by-side of how this affects traffic by geolocation in the next monthly.

Not by a lot probably, but it would be an interesting tidbit.

[–] Demigodrick@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've implemented it today, so definitely happy to see what side by side impact it has.

FYI I think apps still work (as I suspected they might with the way I was trying to set this up)

[–] swizzlestick@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yep, apps are still OK.

Desktop redirects to uk. as intended, across all frontends.

Something to do with Cloudflare I guess. Have you gone for IP or WAF rules?

[–] Demigodrick@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

All done in nginx with geoip2. This should mean federation traffic is still allowed. The side effect of hiw I've implemented it is that apps are allowed too.

[–] swizzlestick@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

lemmy.ca notes that 87% of their surveyed users are mobile as of their census in 2023, with the lion's share coming from apps rather than mobile browsers (that would be blocked).

If we have a similar split here, not handling app traffic would undermine the original purpose of the geoblock. "Use an app" is a much lower bar than "Use a VPN" in terms of accessibility.

Only you know the figures though :)

[–] Demigodrick@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's a valid point - I'll mull over it. I'm not sure ofcom are going to download an app, but I guess we'll have to see what they actually do end up enforcing. As long as it doesn't break federation, then it's a simple removal of allowing api access to the uk users which would stop apps.

[–] swizzlestick@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

I'm not sure ofcom are going to download an app

Also a valid point 😂

[–] Ballissle@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ah crap. Im from the uk. This sucks. But i get its not your fault.

I only access this from Boost For Lemmy app but i suspect it will still fail to load data regardless.

I wonder would a vpn work? In theory it should.

[–] Demigodrick@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A vpn would work. Some people use one 24/7 these days if their router/device supports it.

[–] Ballissle@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I keep one on my devices at most times anyway so that is no problem. I have no intention of leaving. Not for a while anyway

[–] swizzlestick@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago

In the same boat as you, I've just used this as an excuse to flip the roles of the regular and VPN connections.

Used to be VPN when needed. Now it's full time with exceptions as required.

[–] Big_Bob@hexbear.net -4 points 2 months ago

Limeys taking Ls like usual

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