I have already blocked threads on my household instance. I decided that I don't want to have to trust major instance admins to take the same things seriously that I do.
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In my opinion, nothing. If Meta is able to effectively take over Fediverse as people are claiming, then the Fediverse was never destined to survive to begin with. On to the next thing. This is the first real test of the resilience of this type of “decentralized social network”, and if it ends up going to shit, it would have eventually anyway.
I disagree with this. You're saying we should watch Meta invade and profit off the fediverse and do nothing? Just because it's an open standard doesn't mean we should watch and let it happen, defederating is retaliation. The fediverse isn't going to succeed by people doing nothing and watching others ruin it.
We've seen this happen. Many times. If the fediverse admins are going to repeat the mistakes of other standards then it's going to slowly get worse until people do another standard and do it all over again.
we shouldn't do anything.
Isn't the whole promise of the fediverse that whatever the policies of one instance are, that doesn't necessarily affect all the other instances, and each can do their own thing. If an instance doesn't want to accept traffic from threads, good for them. But to try to organize a fediverse-wide response to threads seems a whole lot like the centralization the fediverse is supposed to not be.
Another vote to defederate here.
I run my own instance and am defederating immediately (whenever they start federating). I did also join the pact.
I'll evaluate their impact a month or so in and decide whether or not to refederate.
I acknowledge there's potential for a positive impact here, so I will give them a chance.
Fuck em. Burn this place to the ground before we dance with the devil.
Threads is exactly showing the biggest problem with anything Fediverse. It's simpler for the user so it will be accepted. The amount of people I've already seen join is huge compared to mastodon.
Lemmy doesn't need to be #1 in popularity. I'd prefer it to split and maintain a higher level of quality, even if it's smaller as a result. Even if Meta can grab data either way, it should be disconnected on principle.
Given that everything right now is just speculation - I say sit tight, observe what actually happens and respond appropriately if it does start to go wrong. Defederation is very easy, we can do it when we need to
threads will never federate.
I think defederation isn't the solution. Am I dumb in thinking this could actual have a mutual benefit?
Just an example: I will never use Threads, but if I can communicate with them from my Mastodon account, I would like to have that option.
I wouldn't call you dumb, but naive yeah. I don't trust anything facebook does and them trying to get involved here is just another shot at unethical data collection. The content on all their sites is shit and sinpleminded so imo nothing they do should be welcome here.
There needs to be a Mozilla-like foundation that builds a competitive product platform for Fediverse that looks slick, is free of bugs, and matches any additional features that Threads might come up with