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i wish no harm to american ruling class, my enemy is the american people

op admits it was a joke originally, but says after witnessing the contempt of the american people for gaza, is sad to say his joke was correct (unless i'm misreading this)

the user posting_forever writes "yeah well welcome to what happens when your country bombs and threatens half of the earth. feels pretty shitty, huh?"

barbarism critic continues their thread "If you have posted this as a joke that’s one thing, but there’s wayyyy too much of this sentiment expressed sincerely on here and as a signifier of being the “most radical”. It is not! It is poorly disguised misanthropy and nihilism!"

one person say that barbarism critic is "the brianna wu of 2025. Remember kids I called it"

i guess there is some very real perceived material interests of americans to continue the genocide in palestine, like the christian zionists, or the liberals who want to continue the american dominance via global hegemony, and the labor aristocrats in america who want the treats.

i was listening to rev left radio "The Long Transition Towards Socialism and the End of Capitalism" with Torkil Lauesen and, probably gonna butcher it - but my understanding is that as we enter a multipolar world, the americans will not be able to blatantly exploit the over-exploited nations (global south) leading to increasingly deteriorating conditions in the imperial core, which will set the grounds very clearly between socialism and barbarism?

and we are to organize and help alleviate the woes of the people which also serve as a way of building relations that lead to building power via organizations.

(iirc the bolsheviks has above ground orgs and underground orgs for the law breaking stuff)

eh i dunno just over analyzing what do you peeps think.

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This guy sucks, it's actually very easy to hate both of them

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[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The imperial core has already been hollowed out. Multipolarity doesn’t even matter we’ve been quickly hollowing out since the 1970s as the ruling class learned they can get nearly slave labor abroad and they shipped all of our manufacturing to cheap or worse labor elsewhere.

As an American I hate Americans. I feel bad for those misled and manipulated but a good chunk of them think we should just nuke the Middle East and be done with it.

[–] SocialistDovahkiin@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

What is going on in this thread? We're just going to argue over the idea of hating the American people instead of the far more glaring issue of them (joking about) not hating the ruling class? As far as I'm concerned they should hate both

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

Speaking of "calling it", I wonder if there was anyone on here who called out that tweeter months ago for being the civility lib that they are.

[–] Firstnamebunchofnumbers@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The only good yank is a dead yank

[–] QueerCommie@hexbear.net 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Following that logic there are millions of good yanks and we all end up good in the end :(.

[–] Firstnamebunchofnumbers@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We should all try getting good sooner

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

Living in the imperial core I make not that much more than @slavomir_YU@twitter.com, less than a factor of 4 in nominal terms, less than a factor of 2 in PPP. Yet I consider myself fairly well-off; I have the chance to advance myself due to not engaging in the shocking level of hyperconsumption that most people around me engage in.

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