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submitted 1 year ago by techwooded@lemmy.ca to c/coffee@lemmy.world

Hey everyone, I'm looking to expand my coffee gear and am planning on acquiring a moka pot and an aeropress. Which should I get first? I'm planning on getting both, but one not for a few months.

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[-] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have both, and I think the aeropress makes much nicer coffee. I find mocha pots make overly-strong and bitter shots, but maybe that's just my preference.

Aeropress is more of a faff though.

[-] ColoradoBoy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Moka is definitely a very robust brew. If you find you’re getting bitterness, try tweaking your extraction with a larger grind size, higher temp (thus faster brew time), or both.

[-] idkwhatimdoing@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

I'd say Aeropress for sure based solely on versatility, as it can make something similar (not identical, but definitely similar) to both a moka pot and a French press, especially if you pick up metal filters for it. Moka pots are great, but touchy, and will likely never be brought out again if you ever get an espresso machine.

[-] LifeInOregon@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

I own both. I daily use my AeroPress. I use my Moka about twice a month. They’re both great brewers, but the Moka isn’t for making a good daily cup or espresso. The coffee you get from it is unique. If you make a lot of milk beverages, I think the Moka is a decent way to make coffee for that use, but you’ll also need a good way to froth and steam your milk.

I’d go with an AeroPress and check out the various brew methods available to achieve your desired results.

[-] jeanofthedead@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

The AeroPress is a lot more “fun.” It’s interactive, versatile, portable… and it makes some fantastic coffee.

[-] Xariphon@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I can't get enough of my aeropress. For me it's mostly the convenience of it in terms of cleaning. With the aero press you barely even have to.

[-] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

It's fun to karate-chop the grinds and filter off the plunger into a can. It's one of my favorite parts of brewing the cup.

[-] ShadowAndFlame@mander.xyz -1 points 1 year ago

The same can be said of moka pots. Every time you let soap touch a moka pot, an Italian sheds a tear.

[-] sqw@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago

Clean your moka pot. Rancid coffee oil tastes bad.

[-] ColoradoBoy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This. I switched to stainless. No aluminum or rancid oil, both of which I think negatively affect flavor. I even pour my La Croix into a glass because I don’t like the taste of the can. Maybe I’m just sensitive but I love a clean moka pot. I have at least one moka everyday.

[-] martijn@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Like most other replies, it really depends on your usage and taste. I personally prefer a Moka pot over an aeropress. But I also like my Hario V60 for filter coffee, so the aeropress iszcloser to that. Hence the choice for a Moka pot is clear, it's a bit more of a difference.

So weigh your options as what you already have and like.

[-] justhach@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Aeropress is the superior coffee method for 1 cup at a time. Quick, easy, effcient, and clean up is a breeze.

That being said, if I'm making any more than 1 cup at a time, I go for my my Moka Pot. Moka gets closer to that espresso experience, IMO, and is great for making lattes/cappucinos/americanos at home if you dont want to shell out hundreds for an ok espresso machine, or $1000+ for a really good one.

[-] jochem@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I used to own a moka pot, but it got lost somewhere. I find it difficult to get a good cup out of it, although recently I got to play with a small one in Italy and that produced a really nice espresso sized cup.

Aeropress is my daily driver and it produces the nicest cup for relatively little work. It's a forgiving system and easy to experiment with. I would definitely recommend this over a moka pot.

[-] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

The tiny Bialettis are adorable.

Recommend the Aeropress first. I've used both for a long time now, and the Aeropress is more versatile, faster, and easier to clean up. It can also basically cover the moka taste.

[-] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I love my moka pot. I have an induction cook top in the kitchen so I have a stainless steel moka pot. I like a big mug of coffee so I went with the 6 cup size. Easy clean up. No paper filters to buy. Never used an aeropress but I wanted to avoid another plastic coffee tool so moka pot was the choice.

[-] Kalkaline@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

I liked the idea of the aero press, but ended up just going back to a French press.

[-] ratman150@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

My daily coffee is an Aeropress and I don't think I'd even consider a Moka pot just because of how flexible the Aeropress is.

To make the Aeropress work you need hot water, ground coffee, filters.

[-] lildictator@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wish I had bought an Aeropress at first and never bought anything else. It's a fast and forgiving way of making yummy coffee ranging anywhere from moka-level strength down to drip level strength. It is trivially easy to clean, too.

Something I love about it is that you can start the kettle and while that's happening you can grind the coffee and get the Aeropress ready, which saves time. With a moka pot you are forced to do the coffee grinding and the water boiling in strict sequence, which unnecessarily increases the time from "I want a cuppa" to "This is delicious!".

[-] sqw@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago

I boil the water directly in the moka bottom while grinding, then carefully drop in and screw on the top after it comes to the boil.

[-] lildictator@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

I tried doing things like that and found it unnecessarily risky, particularly when an Aeropress avoids the problem entirely.

To be fair, you can make a big mess with the Aeropress while you push down on the plunger, so maybe I shouldn't praise its safety either.

[-] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I boil the water in a kettle and then put it in the bottom and on the stove with the rest of the apperatus. I've never had it be finnicky since I've started the brew from warm.

The real issue with the Moka is that the metal superstructure gets overheated and it causes the coffee to scorch. I've had that problem my entire life and never cared enough about coffee to go and try figure it out, but after speaking with some of my friends we found that starting from warm was the key to a foolproof Moka.

[-] Gxost@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I have both and prefer AeroPress because of its precision and versatility (a scale and a good grinder, however, needed). Moka Pot is good too, but I use it for home latte only.

[-] Curdie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I haven't used Moka Pot so I can't comment on the direct comparison of the two. AeroPress was a little too clean for my taste. Turns out I like a hint of grit in my coffee and and miss it when it's not there. I got a 12 oz french press, probably knockoff of this model https://www.amazon.com/Bodum-Chambord-French-Coffee-Stainless/dp/B00005LM0R and never looked back.

[-] Curdie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I started that comment with the intention of saying that you kind of have to just try it and figure out which style you like more. Coffee is an extremely subjective personal preference thing.

[-] Mischala@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 year ago

Did you try a metal filter in the Aeropress?
It let's just a bit of the fines through and would likely provide what you are looking for.

But, that french press looks great also.

[-] Curdie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I did try the metal filter! I was optimistic when I ordered it; it sounded perfect. It didn't do it for me. I guess I am just a french press boy at heart.

[-] Pronell@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Never owned a Moka Pot, have owned multiple Aeropresses and use them daily. Fully recommended of course.

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

I'd say that it really depends on the sort of coffee you like. Both are great and I'm glad that you're going that direction. Here's my recommendation:

  • If you like French press coffee, go for the moka pot first. To me, it's somewhere between French press and espresso; somewhat acidic and strong but not extracted with enough pressure to be espresso. Also, like espresso, moka pot coffee is best served in small portions.

  • If you prefer drip or espresso, go for the aeropress. Depending on technique, you can get some good crema and nearly proper espresso as you can generate much more pressure than a moka pot.

A couple of other thoughts: make sure that you have a good grinder, I like burr grinders. Also, if you really want stovetop espresso, something like Bialetti's Brikka might be worth checking out. I've but tried one yet but, they use a similar weighted valve system to old-school pressure cookers that allows the coffee maker to achieve proper espresso pressures.

[-] Lalaz4@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Just started my coffee journey 2 weeks ago with a Timemore C2 grinder and an aeropress. I've been having the best time with how easy and versatile the aeropress is.

[-] broadbean@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Same here! Both great purchases.

[-] mifilmi@lemmy.my.id 1 points 1 year ago

That's the best combination; easy to use, portable, and more importantly: affordable.

[-] markr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I love my bialetti moka pot. However it replaced my espresso machine for daily use. I’ve never owned an aeropress so I can’t compare.

[-] HidingCat@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

As with any equipment purchase in any hobby/interest, what're you looking to get out of with this purchase? Don't buy things for the sake of it.

[-] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

The Moka Pot is for espresso. The way you use it properly is to pre-boil the water in the bottom portion and then apply the heat from the stove to minimize the overall scorching from overheating the frame. My grandparents always started from cold and I start from warm and it makes a world of difference in taste and power.

If you're consistently brewing coffee and not espresso the AeroPress is a no-brainer. It makes an incredible cup that really brings out the flavors in great coffee. When I want to show somebody a good single origin to demonstrate the funky flavors I will always brew with an AeroPress because it's very clean. The Moka pot can do this for good espresso, provided you start from warm water.

[-] Aarex@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

As someone who grew up with moka pot and discovered the AeroPress later in life, I would easily recommend the AeroPress if you have a decent grinder and a kettle at home :)

The moka pot, in my experience, is quite a lot more "fiddly" and makes it harder to get a balanced cup of coffee to sip and enjoy. Not impossible, mind you, but harder than an AeroPress.

The AeroPress is extremely forgiving, incredibly easy to use and clean and makes great coffee, which IMO makes it a great first choice.

[-] markr@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I love my bialetti moka pot. However it replaced my espresso machine for daily use. I’ve never owned an aeropress so I can’t compare.

[-] jerrimu@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

What do you wanna drink every day? A moka is an espresso maker.

[-] TheBenCommandments@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago

Moka pots are more like percolators. They don’t create 9 bars of pressure to force the water through the coffee; it’s under 2 bars. The high pressure is what makes espresso espresso.

[-] sqw@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

yes, like a one-pass bottom-to-top steam pressure driven percolator ;-)

[-] Turkey_Titty_city@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

aero press is drip coffee.

moka is not. it's more like espresso, it's Italian style coffee where you take it in shots.

question is what do you want, espresso style, or standard American style drip?

if you want ot make espresso style drinks, you want moka pot.

[-] jocanib@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's not really drip? I mean, I'm new around these parts so I may not understand the nuances of terminology here. But it only drips to the extent that it can't not drip, for however long your brew time is. The bulk of the work is done by the press, not gravity.

[-] kukkurovaca@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, aero press is generally considered to be an immersion brewer, rather than a drip/percolation brewer. It's functionally like a french press, but paper filtered.

[-] TheBenCommandments@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, coffee from moka pots is more like drip coffee than espresso.

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