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The foundation's "mission" only makes me think of injecting adverrising and trackers. Hard to be excited
this post was submitted on 24 Sep 2024
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@AngelicAura@pol.social @Flipboard@flipboard.social @mallory@techpolicy.social @tomcoates@me.dm why? That's not what we're working on at all. What made you think the point is advertising and trackers?
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Well, if meta's involvement isn't a strong enough reason to be suspicious, the foundation's mission statement literally mentions making the whole thing "financially viable"
@AngelicAura@pol.social @Flipboard@flipboard.social @mallory@techpolicy.social @tomcoates@me.dm yes, we think that moderators and admins shouldn't have to go broke and quit and shut down their servers.
We'd like to help figure out ways to keep them going -- I prefer the coop model, like the CoSocial server I use, but that's not for everyone.
@evan@cosocial.ca @AngelicAura@pol.social @Flipboard@flipboard.social @mallory@techpolicy.social @tomcoates@me.dm Facebook & Automattic, both companies well known for doing exactly that, which have excitedly done exactly that when getting their hands on something before, are part of SWF. Even if that is not SWF's intentions, Facebook or Automattic are likely to abuse their position to make it happen. I've heard concerns about IFTAS too, but I don't know enough about them to tell, so I'll trust people that know more about them than me.
@jackemled@furry.engineer @AngelicAura@pol.social @Flipboard@flipboard.social @mallory@techpolicy.social @tomcoates@me.dm IFTAS is awesome.
@evan@cosocial.ca Isn't IFTAS in strong support of using blocklists to silence or hide the existence of LGBT people without the knowledge of the people using those blocklists though? That does not sound awesome. Or do they not understand the harm that has been caused by the blocklisting project they're supporting? Maybe they don't realize the evil it's being used for? I completely understand if they didn't know, the person running it is one of those super charismatic people that are good at hiding abuse.
@Flipboard@flipboard.social @evan@cosocial.ca @mallory@techpolicy.social @tomcoates@me.dm neat project, but that website is atrocious. Half of the page content is images and it doesn't even link to their own "deliverables".
@Neblib@mastodo.neoliber.al @Flipboard@flipboard.social @mallory@techpolicy.social @tomcoates@me.dm It took me a while to figure out what you meant here.
The projects are just starting because the organisation just launched. We'll show the deliverables on those pages when they're done.
@evan@cosocial.ca @Flipboard@flipboard.social @mallory@techpolicy.social @tomcoates@me.dm I think my confusion was that they are labeled "recent projects" (implying projects by founding members donated to the new foundation) not "currently working on" or similar. Since they are in progress, why not list next steps and current progress? e.g. for e2ee you could link to the SWCG AP-E2EE TF https://github.com/swicg/activitypub-e2ee, today's meeting https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/4eb80e63-556e-482e-9354-de7a3535a786/, discuss what was learned in the SoP24 (assuming completion of 31 Aug per the website), etc.
@Neblib@mastodo.neoliber.al @Flipboard@flipboard.social @mallory@techpolicy.social @tomcoates@me.dm thanks. That's a fair critique. I'll see what I can do to get the full status of the project onto those pages.
@evan@cosocial.ca @Flipboard@flipboard.social @mallory@techpolicy.social @tomcoates@me.dm thanks for taking the time to discuss that critique. I really think your foundation has a great mission, and I'm really excited by its launch.
@Neblib@mastodo.neoliber.al @Flipboard@flipboard.social @mallory@techpolicy.social @tomcoates@me.dm Us too!