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submitted 2 months ago by Makan@lemmygrad.ml to c/fantasy@lemmy.ml

cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/5600161

Thoughts on this book?

Thoughts on The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit?

I might watch The Rings of Power but I've heard mixed things on it. What do you all think of it?

Mostly though: I'm hoping that some people here can expand on what I'm reading so far.

'Cause honestly, I do like what I'm reading, I do, and that's because I genuinely like the mythological tone that the world-building takes. And Numenor as an "Atlantis" is a fine way to do things, but honestly, I doubt they'll be able to do much with it in whatever Amazon property they decide to make of it (which, I mean, is fine). I wonder if there are other shows or serials besides The Rings of Power that are coming out? Either way: I really like the beginning and how everything started with music and song.

Your thoughts?

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[-] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

I feel kinda awful about it, because I genuinely adore The Hobbit and LotR, but I have made it halfway through The Simarillion and gotten distracted by something else so many times.

I keep telling myself I'm going to push through it one day. I honestly dig the world building, but it's like my brain just gets exhausted at some point, and I can't get in the mood until it's been so long I've forgotten too much again.

[-] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Best you have nothing else to do lmao

Reading it is kind-of like its own project.

But I like it for it. And I don't mind reading history books.

[-] europa@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

I think The Silmarillion is fantastic, although I can understand why people expecting a novel would be disappointed or find it hard going. It's more akin to mythical and folk works such as the Eddas, the Iliad, the Kalevala, the Bible etc.

Regarding The Rings of Power, I thought the series are okay so far - there are plot holes and things that don't make sense, but I enjoy seeing how the producers have visualised Middle-Earth. If you get into the mindset that it's a retelling, complete with misinterpretations and inventions, it's quite fun. This is actually more in keeping with The Lord of the Rings (unreliable narrators) and Unfinished Tales (multiple manuscripts). I think Tolkien liked playing the idea of multiple versions, translations and interpretations, reflecting the state of mediaeval literature. In fact, his original goal for his mythos was to create a framework and for others to invent or retell within the framework.

The Lord of the Rings is my favourite book, but after reading The Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales, it's clear that Tolkien bolted it on to his mythos without too much thought into how it would fit in. The same applies to The Hobbit (especially before he rewrote after The Lord of the Rings).

There's a Rohirrim anime that's coming out which adds another interpretation to the mythos. From the trailer, some of the characters look larger than life in typical anime fashion, which is an interesting angle if it takes a "heroic epic" approach like Beowulf or the Epic of Gilgamesh.

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