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Kbin/Mbin (and possibly others?) definitely have the edge here since those platforms make votes public (only admins can see them on Lemmy). So, if you want to confirm what I'm saying here, go view some of these posts from Kbin/Mbin.

Every time one of the "usual suspects" says stuff like this in the comments, there will later be posts detailing how Biden is doing (or at least earnestly trying to do) exactly the things they're saying he needs to be doing (oR ElSe i WiLl noT voTE anD NEithER ShoULD yoU!!!11!!). 100% of the time, those posts are downvoted by these same "usual suspect" accounts.

What gives? They have very strong opinions about how he should run his administration, so you'd think they'd appreciate him doing what they've been so helpfully suggesting. Unless....it was never about the issues at all.

That thin veneer of concern they're hiding behind is not as thick as they think it is and is quite easy to see through. Now you know where to look.

Edit: Please don't name and shame any specific users. That may violate the community or LW rules. We all know who most of the "usual suspects" are.

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[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

100% this. They think they’re not being seen for what they are, but it’s all right there. Plain as day.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

In my experience, any criticism of Biden is immediately met with "but Trump is worse!!!" Rather than any current argument as to why Biden isn't actually that bad.

If the responses WERE generally any Biden I'd still dislike Biden but I wouldn't bitch so much about him. Every once in a while you find someone making an effort to defend Biden in good faith and, great. We can disagree on the dude, that's fine. But if I can't criticize Biden without immediately being redirected to talking about Trump, I'm going to keep talking about Biden. If the best case scenario is we're stick with this guy for another 4 years I would appreciate some pressure to do better.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

There are plenty of reasons why Biden isn’t that bad. And I’ve seen enough people list them that I don’t feel I should waste the time. The information is very easy to obtain…

And Trump IS worse. News flash… BOTH things can be true.

Now in MY experience, most… and I said MOST criticism about Biden is about one single thing.

gEnoCiDe.

And it’s mostly from people that have no history of showing any support for Palestine prior to several months ago. Also, it’s from people that have no viable solutions to the question of who we should vote for if not Biden.

Because not voting doesn’t cancel an election.

And you’re absolutely right. He 100% should do better. And he should be held accountable for the things he could have done better- in whatever way is fair and just- But when you’re in the middle of a hurricane, you don’t bitch at FEMA for not sending people to drain your flooded basement. You endure what you have to to get through it.

We need to get through this.

Now…

To the actual far lefters, I’d say:

We are risking losing our entire democracy. This isn’t something to hold hostage in a negotiation over foreign affairs. I’d suggest you take this shit seriously- the genocide will be MUCH worse due to willful inaction. And you won’t have anyone to blame but yourselves.

To the “far lefters” that are actually MAGA bots here to disrupt our election:

You’re not fooling anyone.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

And it’s mostly from people that have no history of showing any support for Palestine prior to several months ago.

Exactly!!!

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[–] anas@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (18 children)

I’m not American so I’m not going to tell you who to vote for, but don’t pretend that Biden cares about Gaza, even if Trump is worse. You can draw the line wherever you want, compromise whatever you want, but stop lying to yourselves.

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