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What the title says. I think there is still a long way for that to happen but i've been hopeful. What do you think?

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[–] QubaXR@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes I do. What I am looking for is federated/web3 replacements for Instagram, and some kind of well encrypted, decentralized messenger app

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[–] theostermanweekend@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

I remember reading old science fiction stories where a freer,more bottom up kind of internet existed. Maybe, maybe, maybe we can get a kind of thing like that? We have the technology. Why not?

[–] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Honestly, it just needs to be large enough to have decent activity; social media becomes garbage as soon as it goes ‘mainstream’.

[–] bledley@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

mainstream's not all it's cracked up to be..

[–] Socialphilosopher@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

No. But this is not important for me. Where is the crowd? Shit is there.

[–] towelie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I believe that, just like RSS feeds did not become mainstream while Reddit did, the current state of the fediverse will not gain mainstream popularity; however, it'll serve as a stepping stone towards a new federated internet that'll be seamless and intuitive for non-technically-inclined individuals and those who are indifferent to the implications for privacy and digital freedom.

[–] Mastersord@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

I’m hopeful but it will take a while. I want to see where we are in 6 months from now. Apps need to be pushed to the stores (at least on iOS).

That being said, it needs protocols for migrating instances when an instance is dead or about to die. Then there are some privacy concerns and such. It’s also not clear how it all can sustain monetarily except via donations.

But seeing the recent growth spurts and increase in new posts, I am still hopeful that this place has staying power.

[–] ReepusVanguard@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Eventually, yes.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

I'm already there, and acknowledge my sample size is low. :)

[–] stackPeek@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I mean... Reddit itself is already very niche

Lemmy probably won't every be mainstream. Mastodon, probably, not confident about it.

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[–] markpaskal@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

I think Lemmy is coming along nicely. There is lots of content for me to consume. I am on lemmy.ca so I haven't seen any of the bugs other people are talking about, it just works except for subscribing to places on the busy instances which shows pending for a while.

People will get used to how this works and I think it snowballs from here.

[–] peterlee@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It might get a huge boost in usage now that Meta released Threads. In the main page, it said that the app will be able to connect to the fediverse and specifically mentioned Mastodon as an example. Maybe someday I’ll be able to stop using reddit altogether. But that day is not today.

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[–] art@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Mainstream yes. Fully replace? Never. However I don't think that traditional counterparts will ever be as big as they were before. I think we're seeing a shift in people's relationship with these platforms.

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Only if a site like join-Lemmy.org can be promoted on every instance and actually direct you to a server that isn’t overloaded and is fully federated.

Right now, it directs you to sadly overloaded servers that are terrible choices.

If that doesn’t happen, then some big instance needs to scale up with its popularity and be well funded by someone for some reason.

[–] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

I hope not tbh. But I’m selfish. Let the masses have their garbage if they choose.

[–] ThatOtherDude@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Yes. I am a typical reddit user and Lemmy is simply a better product.

[–] Hexophile@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

No and I hope they don’t. At first that’s what I wanted for mastodon / Lemmy but as I’ve been here I’ve realized that having too many people invariably dilutes the quality of content since popularity means shouting over more voices and content which is generic or manipulative (rage bait) or appeals to the least common denominator bubbles up. There’s a critical mass needed for quality and content variety, but too much and it falls apart.

[–] Hexophile@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

No and I hope they don’t. At first that’s what I wanted for mastodon / Lemmy but as I’ve been here I’ve realized that having too many people invariably dilutes the quality of content since popularity means shouting over more voices and content which is generic or manipulative (rage bait) or appeals to the least common denominator bubbles up. There’s a critical mass needed for quality and content variety, but too much and it falls apart.

[–] seananigans@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Replace? Absolutely not. But it will definitely be a viable product alongside.

[–] SomeOtherUsername@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 years ago

Imo, Reddit has no moat. Twitter's only moat is community notes. In principle, community notes could be replicated and scaled to the size of the internet, adding comments to any arbitrary link and run like Wikipedia.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

There is a path but a lot of work needs to happen and a established community directory needs to be established so people can find what they are looking for.

[–] mvp@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I doubt it, it's not complicated to use, but also not an out of the box experience like other platforms

[–] Walop@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Mainstream users value ease of use in a way only a centralised service can offer. Also any social service has the hurdle of being where everyone else is, so every other person in your circles must follow what the simplest and laziest one bothers to use. If you have to resort explaining anything how the platform technically works to use it or to find you, you have already lost.

But I think these platforms are crossing the critical mass (if not already happened) to be useful and fun for those who choose to overcome the tiny hurdles of using the platform. It may be even their strength that not everyone and their mother is active there.

[–] wiox@compuverse.uk 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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