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submitted 1 year ago by jherazob@beehaw.org to c/fediverse@lemmy.ml

This blog post by Ploum, who was part of the original XMPP efforts long ago, describes how Google killed one great federated service, which shows why the Fediverse must not give Meta the chance

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@MyMulligan @jherazob I disagree.

I think the key thing is to just make sure that you don't use non #FOSS clients. #GoogleTalk started as a client for #XMPP, people migrated to it, and then #Google dropped support for #XMPP. If so many people didn't use #GoogleTalk, the #XMPP network would have remained unimpeded.

[-] jherazob@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

At this point it wouldn't matter, all they need to do is to mess with the protocol and it'd achieve the same thing, Meta and everything in it's sphere would "work well", but connecting with true ActivityPub servers would work just glitchy enough to annoy their users and point the fingers towards our side, just like it happened with XMPP

@jherazob

what the heck makes you think that all the #Fediverse users are just gonna leave for #Meta because federation with it is "annoying"? lol

[-] jherazob@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I wasn't talking about our users, i was talking about theirs, a direct mirror of what the author described with XMPP

@jherazob The #Meta situation isn't comparable to the #XMPP situation though

[-] jherazob@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Correct, it's worse, you can very much argue that Google had good faith intentions, you cannot even pretend that Facebook does while keeping a straight face

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