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[-] manualoverride@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

2023 top 5 vehicles sold in USA and weight:

1 - Ford F-150 4069-5697lbs

2 - Chevrolet Silverado 4400-6947lbs

3 - Ram pickup 4765-6440lbs

4 - Toyota RAV4 3370lbs

5 - Tesla Model Y 4416lbs

Looks like the only electric on the list is below the average weight. We don’t have these conversations about the trucks.

[-] Rooskie91@discuss.online 17 points 4 months ago

That's a list of a bunch of trucks compared to a midsized SUV, so you're kind of proving yourself wrong. Cars are split into weight classes, so a comparison that doesn't acknowledge that isn't very useful. A EV Sedan is on average much heavier than an ICE sedan.

No one's saying ICE vehicles are better for the environment than EVs

[-] manualoverride@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Those are the most sold vehicles in the US, when you have heavy EV’s in the top slots you can say that heavy ev’s are a problem… until then it’s what you are buying is causing the problem.

[-] MagicPterodactyl@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago

Just because something isn't the biggest problem doesn't mean it's not a problem worth talking about.

[-] manualoverride@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

I agree entirely, but the title of this post suggests that EVs are the problem, but actually it’s heavy vehicles.

Additionally when we say “problem”, particulate pollution from vehicles is 99.9% a diesel problem, and 0.1% a tire problem. (Not actual statistics but let me know how wrong I am with the actual stat)

[-] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

No one’s saying ICE vehicles are better for the environment than EVs

I think it's possible for a diesel vehicle running on 100% biodiesel made from waste oil to be. The problem there is that there isn't enough of that sort of fuel to go around as long as cities keep getting designed to keep people car-dependent.

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 16 points 4 months ago

Trucks are a whole other issue into themselves, though. Not just the tire wear, but their terrible fuel economy.

[-] Classy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago

7,000 lbs, fucking hell. Who needs such a massive vehicle??

[-] uis@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago
[-] manualoverride@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Well there are contractors who need to tow heavy machinery around, so about 0.01% of the people that buy them need them.

[-] englislanguage@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 4 months ago

Wow, that's an impressive list of amateur tanks. Do they also sell real cars in the US? (Rhetorical question)

[-] JeffreyOrange@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Jesus christ that is appaling. What stupid fucking vehicles.

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