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Porque no los Dos?
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"non-speakers", "not ours" as if you have any right to decide or judge.
Clinging for dear life to "it's not disgusting bigotry! ItS jUsT oUr CuLtUrE!", unless you're out here admitting you have the weakest spine on the planet and immediately turn with the social winds, how other people speak a language ain't gonna change how you speak it.
Only way you could ever accuse it of harming latin culture is if you fundamentally believe being inclusive to queer folks is destructive, in which case, you are literally the exact low-down slime I was warning about in this whole thread, and I welcome you to the stage as the freakshow example you deserve to be seen as!
Hey friend, cool back a few notches maybe.
I'm cishet, but I consider myself an ally of the community.
That said, the Latinx shit is dumb. Do you speak any Spanish or can you use an accent? Latinx is unpronounceable in Spanish. That's why people of that racial grouping say that it's some bullshit. It is bullshit.
My friends and coworkers from Mexico, Central, and South America prefer Latino, Latina, or even, believe it or not, Spanish. Gender neutral!
One of my professional mentors is from Nicaragua. He lives in the US, calls himself by an anglicized first name, and when people ask where he's from he says he's Mexican. Granted he's older and he's just trying to get by. He doesn't give a fuck about any of this identity stuff. I'm not saying people should emulate him, just giving a silly example.
Bro, just borrow from Nahuatl, Latin-"ehe", or Latin-esh, you know, like the ways they pronounce the oh so unpronounceable, oh so unbearable to the spanish speaking tongue X that sits in the middle of the name of the largest Spanish speaking country in the fucking world?
It really isn't the tongue obliterating challenge all los machismos are fitting and moaning over it being.
Anyways this isn't even about how people should be using it anymore, it's about recognizing the true reasons behind why there was a fight to begin with. Nobody, has fought so hard to resist a linguistic change, as the bigots do to resist a change that accommodates trans/NB identity.
You know what came closest to this kind of resistance in a widely adopted change in English? Singular They/Them, it's been around since literally before America and yet we still have the armchair grammar nazis insisting they/them can only be a plural pronoun, with I am sure zero ulterior motive aside from just hating trans people.
The backlash to the X was rooted fundamentally in transphobia, and understanding and expecting better than that queerphobic undercurrent in Latine culture is nothing wrong or neocolonial or whatever the fuck other excuse someone trying to excuse the hate out of their ass tries to pull to dogwhistle the "gringo shit" narrative.
You're not entitled to people just forgetting how you wronged them just because you were able to bully them into "moving on" from it.
I like Latine. If the people of Spanish speaking countries accept it I think it's great.
I didn't mean that X is unpronounceable in Spanish, it's just absurd to be at the end of a word in Spanish.
Everyone uses singular they but for some reason they don't like it as a pronoun. "They went to the store," "What did you do for them?" Etc. I don't get it.
But really I understand that you're angry and you have good reason to be. You don't need to change my mind but if you chill back a bit maybe you can change others like the people who might be reading this exchange.
Like I get that you probably aren't personally accusing me of bullying people, but if I was less empathetic or maybe not as proficient in English I might think you were calling me a bully there.