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[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

Fair points! But Bernie's are not... (Unfortunately I think he's legit too old now anyway, and I would bet he would agree.) Not saying I wouldn't vote for him, but I think age alone would stop many. (insert Biden/Trump swipe here)

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah unironically Bernie is further left than FDR when you look at it holistically. FDR may have been further left economically (which he also had to be pushed on a bit), but Bernie is left all around.

I think at this point in his career, the Senate is probably best for him. We need powerful progressive senators to pass progressive legislation. The Inflation Reduction Act could only go as far as it did because of Bernie's influence and cooperation with Biden.

Which is something important I want to highlight -- Clinton scorned Bernie, while Biden welcomed him. Biden was friendly to him in the Senate, and that set them up for a successful cooperative future. Lemmy could learn a lot from that. We're stronger when we ally together.

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

I think at this point in his career, the Senate is probably best for him. We need powerful progressive senators to pass progressive legislation.

I've seen this sentiment expressed before and I agree, it's a reasonable view. I'd still enthusiastically vote for him tomorrow if he could be on the ballot instead of Biden. I am not a strident hater of Biden, but I agree with most of the (non-maga) criticisms against him to one degree or another. No doubt I'm picking him over Trump, but I wish we had better choices.

Which is something important I want to highlight – Clinton scorned Bernie, while Biden welcomed him. Biden was friendly to him in the Senate, and that set them up for a successful cooperative future.

Yep, I don't keep a spreadsheet of these sorts of things or anything, but I remember claims during the 2020 runup that he would at least take advice from progressives under advisement, and I get the feeling that he's lived up to that much, at least.

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