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[–] RustyWizard@programming.dev 111 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Copyright terms are so fucking stupid. Imagine getting into trouble for using Popeye. Make it the same as a patent duration and be done with it.

[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 58 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You can really see how invested the copyright owners were to get such long durations.

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago

"I'm not saying that's how it should be. I'm saying that's how it is."

- Tom Scott, 2020

YouTube's copyright system isn't broken. The world's is. (43 minutes long, but worth a watch)

[–] fiercekitten@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

Fuck Disney and congress for extending copyright protections to near infinity.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I feel like it should be the life time of the creator of the work provided that person is still getting a significant percentage of the royalties. Otherwise something like 20 years.

That way companies might be less likely to force artists to sign away all rights to their work. So like "hey this kid could live another 50 years, so lets make sure he gets his percentage so we can keep control longer."

[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How would that work for anything produced by a company? If you're a continuing run of stories, and a random artist dies, copyright on parts of your product suddenly evaporate? Getting a job as an artist would be like making an insurance claim: with a risk assessment. Good luck getting work as you get older or sick.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago

Why would a copyright entering public domain cause a problem with your product? Public domain doesn't mean you can't use a work anymore, more the opposite really.

And they'd still get 20 years for a work made by a 90 year with a terminal illness.

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Could companies not also say "hey, this kid could live another 50 years, let's kill them soon so their work will be in the public domain and we can profit from it"? Or would companies not want the work in the public domain?

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That would be first degree murder, which is kinda illegal.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How's that working out for Boeing?

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Too early to tell right now.

[–] Heavybell@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I dunno what the patent duration is, but copyright should probably just be 50 years max IMO. If you can't make bank in that time without changing the idea up (and thus getting 50 years on the new version) you don't deserve it.

[–] gerbler@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Originally I think it was closer to 20 years. Frankly I think 25 years is plenty. A quarter century is enough time to reward the creator of an IP and it respects the fact that all IP is built on top of the public domain so it's return is a natural part of the cycle.

[–] Heavybell@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

In any case it's not like after it expires you could not trade on being the original. It's not like others could then come along and claim to have been the original creator. And if you kept making works those would each get their own period of copyright.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

I agree with copyright in a sense that people should have a chance to profit from their ideas before it gets stolen, but you are right that it is way too long of a term. It stymies creativity when people can milk the same idea for many decades.

I would think for creative license like an idea for a cartoon or comic, 10-20 years is more than enough. Then they should try and make new characters or start competing with others trying to improve the character.