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[-] bubstance@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

For those interested in learning more about Plan 9 and trying it out in a public environment: SDF Public Access UNIX System is hosting their seasonal Plan 9 Boot Camp starting June 20th. Feel free to drop into com and say hello!

[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 weeks ago

You're running Plan9 on real hardware???

How's it faring?

[-] bubstance@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 3 weeks ago

But of course! Real hardware or bust.

This particular machine has been my daily driver for months now, so I would say it is faring quite well.

[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

Got all the device driver support?

[-] bubstance@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

On this machine I have everything except for Bluetooth and the fingerprint reader, neither of which I ever use anyway.

[-] zcd@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago
[-] bubstance@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Indeed.

9front comes with two browsers out of the box: abaco and mothra. There is also a port of NetSurf as well as both gopher and gemini browsers.

[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

Nice! I think I'm gonna follow that footstep.

[-] aida@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago

something you can't do or any inconvenience on this system?

[-] bubstance@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Oh sure, lots of things are "inconvenient" on Plan 9.

Of note for most would-be users: if you rely on a modern web browser like Firefox/Chrome, forget about it. Never going to happen.

It's important to remember that Plan 9 is fundamentally a research operating system; it's not really a "typical" environment by any stretch, and that stems largely from it being entirely network-based and distributed. A single Plan 9 system in isolation can only be so interesting. Using it on a laptop like this can be an entirely different set of problems.

If you'd like some examples of things you may face:

  • booting can be slow

  • can be intimidating to set up for some of the more important features – factotum(4) and secstore(1), new users and directories under /, etc.

  • cwfs is slow

  • hjfs is really slow

  • no multi-monitor support

  • only recently did we get a filesystem that specifically aims to be crash-safe

  • poor documentation, though it's been getting better

  • reading research papers is basically a requirement for understanding the system

  • security is not a priority

For me, though? I genuinely don't need much more than what's available in the base system.

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