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[-] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 42 points 5 months ago

Ebikes will be banned in most of North America in 5 years, calling it now :/

[-] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 49 points 5 months ago

I don't know what this is about, but it reminds me of the constant ev-bashing in most major newspapers over the last two decades (since the beginning). I believe it's oil money in the press, and definitely had effect on the overall conversation, especially discouraging small evs, but not clear effect on policy. It just keeps consumers from adopting.

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 5 months ago

Car manufacturers and oil producers have a vested interest in making bikes, ev bikes in particular, illegal.

Basically the same playbook that Henry Ford used to make cities less walkable.

[-] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 14 points 5 months ago

Those articles pulled a lot of weight because my province over the last few years have removed all purchase incentives for EVs. The gov used to give up to $10k CAD rebates for electric vehicles. They recently got rid of it and after the election next year, they’ll fully get rid of all remaining incentives.

[-] SpeakinTelnet@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago

Incentives are great for a few years but then they just become part of the price. Most provinces will eventually remove their incentives towards EV as they become mainstream or at least transition to a subset of EVs maybe leaving out those considered luxury.

What they shouldn't stop investing in is the infrastructure making those EVs a reliable alternative.

[-] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

Do you see EVs being mainstream anytime soon? There are no places to charge (spare for a few big businesses in the bigger cities) and EVs are often double the price of their gas counterparts.

[-] SpeakinTelnet@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

The infrastructure is growing quite fast considering how young the whole EV market is.

As for the price that's exactly what blanket incentives would do. Affordable EVs are hardly developed currently because people buy larger more expensive (profitable) vehicules that would normally be 10k+ over their budget and that 10k is free money in the pockets of the manufacturers. Start giving incentives only for affordable EVs and they will start appearing all over the place

[-] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

The smaller affordable EVs are not available in the North American market. The only choice North American consumers have is the large over the top unaffordable EVs. If consumers literally have no choice, surprise surprise they do with what they have access to.

Incentives in this sense really do nothing except subsidize luxury cars for the rich. Cheap EVs are available all over Europe and China but they are purposefully kept out of North America.

There is no political will or interest to actually switch over.

[-] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago

We can still build our own!

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