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[-] Miaou@jlai.lu 30 points 2 weeks ago

I get and agree with the spirit but "western liberals" doesn't mean anything

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago

It does. Literally the president of the United States as a prime example.

[-] Miaou@jlai.lu 8 points 2 weeks ago

See, based on what you mean by liberal, I don't know whether that means "the current potus is a dem" or "of course because everyone is a liberal there"

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago

everyone is a liberal there

Do you mean everyone in the US is a liberal? No I don't believe that nor did I imply it. I only mentioned the president.

[-] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

From further up the thread

A liberal is someone who:

  • Upholds the modern nation state and is thus against monarchy (against whom the first liberals rebelled against)
  • Upholds capitalism and market economies, and with it property rights
  • Upholds electoral parliamentary systems of governance
  • Usually believes in some version of the social contract or similar theory from which the legitimacy of the nation state and capitalism is derived.

This describes the bulk of the Democrat and Republican parties. US politics doesn't have a left-wing as it is understood in the rest of the world, our center is between two right-wing ideologies.

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