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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We need to be doing both.

In proportion to their value add. Enormous investments in a low yield long shot against minor investment in a sure thing is a bad strategy

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's not a long shot though. We already know this technology works as it has been tested on small scales.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We already know this technology works

Factually inaccurate

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Fuel Cells Are Not the Problem, the Hydrogen Fuel Is

If you were familiar with the technology, you'd understand why it has failed to come to market for so long. You need enormous subsidies to sell vehicles and even then you cannot efficiently produce "Green H~2~"

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We were talking about direct carbon capture in this thread. Hydrogen was a separate topic.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Carbon Capture costs are far higher than reducing emissions with each ton of carbon costing between $230 and $540.

Halting emissions is the most efficient method of reducing total emissions. Capture is extraordinarily expensive and inefficient, particularly when you're still using carbon-based infrastructure to power compressors.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So just because it's expensive right now means we shouldn't do it or research it? Now you sound like the people advocating against renewables.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So just because it’s expensive right now

This isn't a "right now" issue. Its been an ongoing problem since the '90s. And yes, throwing 10x your investment in a working solution on a speculative technology for 35 years running is a bad idea.

Now you sound like the people advocating against renewables.

The O&G industry has been the primary promoter of fuel cell technology. They never deliver and they've had far more money and time to work on this problem than the nascent solar and wind industries.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Why do you keep changing the topic to hydrogen?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Two different conversations.