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bUt BoTh SiDeS dA sAmE
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Mask off "leftist" moment here
I think the fact I am English has as much bearing on this opinion as being left-adjacent. My country helped form the United States, and many of us (not just leftists) are disturbed at what has happened since we were kicked out. I mean it's a common stereotype here that Americans are dumb, fat, and racist.
Pot meet kettle rofl
You fuckers are just as bad as us, you're just more polite about it
Yeah the fact we are now only moderately better than the USA is disturbing. Hey at least we don't have fascists and right wing nut jobs trying to take over the government. Likewise you don't go broke from getting ill, even if the care isn't as good as it used to be.
Got bad news for you bruv
We weren't the ones having people invading the capital. When have we had fascists trying to take over?
Funny how this comment is being made by the same guy that accused me of being a mutt because he doesn’t think I’m as Irish as he supposedly is? Now he says he’s English. Hey, mutt, where is your dna test to prove you’re so much better than everyone, especially Americans?
I was actually born in England though. I live in England. I have an English passport. That's what it means to be English. Being born in America with an American passport makes you, wait for it, American.
I never told you where I was born. Let’s hope you were born where you think you were born. Some people were born in other countries and carried to another country, as infants. No matter how you label a person, you can’t change their dna and the culture that has transcended through generations of a family.
Also if what you say is true then according to our respective ancestry I should be pressing my boot on your neck, while eating a crumpet with butter. Would you like me to do that?
I am also part British and Welsh. I happen to be related to British royalty. I think you should consider your mutt comment and look in the mirror. You don’t have the blood type to be calling me a mutt, or anything along the lines of a dog.
Okay now you are just making it worse. You do understand what a mutt is right? And what pedigree is? Pedigree breading leads to inbred dogs. Mutts are almost always healthier because of their genetic diversity. Mutts just means dogs not from a specific pedigree, meaning they are often crossbred.
Also how do you even know you are from British royalty? More importantly why would that be a good thing? The British have been oppressors in the past, which you seem to have completely missed. I understand why Americans want to be seen as Irish or Scottish. It's because these are/were oppressed peoples and identifying with them makes you think you have moral superiority. In reality America is one of the most oppressive nations to exist, and is trying to put British history to shame. It's a way of escaping white guilt and particularly American guilt, to avoid the fact that maybe your ancestors owned slaves, or that even now America is assisting in genocide.
I am pretty sure being born in another country, experiencing that countries education system, festivals, religions, social gatherings, material conditions, and so on counts as changing culture. This is especially true if those ancestors you guys love talking about moved over 2 or 3 or even 4 generations ago.
I'm sending this message to both of you. Please move this argument to DMs, or the mods here will give you a 3-day vacation from this community.
Are you a mod of this community?
This argument already followed me from another thread. You can check both of our history if you like.
Yes. I'm a mod. I've seen it all - both sides. It's easier to give you both a warning instead of banning.
It wasn’t about where you were born when you decided to start calling me an “Amerimutt”.
I'm sending this message to both of you. Please move this argument to DMs, or the mods here will give you a 3-day vacation from this community.
Also never once claimed to be Irish, you're making that the fuck up.
You called me an “Amerimutt” even though I stated that I am Irish by blood and have lived in Ireland. To me, that implied you were calling me a mutt compared to people in Ireland. Shame on you.
Can you actually say I am wrong? America is known for modeling in foreign affairs, sponsoring coups and starting civil wars, and just straight up invading places. You're even worse than China, and China has a bad track record.
Many of those other nations are much worse than the US.
America has been holding the world back in the sense of separating combatants in fist fights. We have been global peacekeepers for almost a century now and it's been an incredibly good thing for the human race. Not to mention our technological advancements. The rise of the USA has been a good thing for humanity, though it does have its downsides.
The first part is sort of true, but nobody does it more aggressively than America and Russia.
You aren't even close to peacekeepers. You are literally sponsoring genocide in Palestine. You started a whole war in Vietnam and then lost. Stop pretending to be the good guys.