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The Elf even hunts Nazgul for sport!
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Well, Istari were not full power Maiar, that was kind of the point. Honestly, there may have been some elves from earlier ages that were stronger than some of the wizards.
I like to think of Gandalf as like how I act with the kids at my daycare. I think the Istarii asking the children of Eru to clean up Sauron's mess is like me asking the kids to show me which bucket the toys on the floor go in. I could do it all by myself, but it's better for them if they do it.
The Istari were conceived because the last time Maiar went to war a continent sank. They have their memories altered in order to greatly weaken them and prevent that kind of power from being thrown around. Their mandate is to do exactly as you say, get the kids to get themselves straightened out, but they very specifically are not powerful enough to do it on their own, by design.
That is true, it is pretty directly stated that they were weakened, but need I remind you how our favorite frail old wizard beat a Balrog to death so loudly that it could be seen and heard from miles away? I firmly believe that, with power equalling a Balrog and with their wisdom as ageless beings, the five of them working together couldn't figure some way to deal with it. Maybe they would mug Sauron in a back alley or something. Besides, the actual Dark Lord of this age (the Witch King) would have been relatively fair game as far as his prophecy was concerned, since they are not of the race of Men.
Of course, if they tried to do this and died, Mandos would almost certainly put them in time out instead of sending them back. That's my pet theory about what happened to the Blue Wizards; I think they broke from their path for what they thought was good reason, got sent back to Valinor, and then Mandos put them in the time-out chair to think about what they've done.
Considering what Fingolfin did to Morgoth, you'd think so. Gandalf claimed he was the most dangerous person on Middle-Earth save for the dark lord himself though, which would imply he still held more power than the likes of Galadriel.
Gandalf's danger didn't come from raw power though. Olorin was considered the mightiest Maia they could send, but Olorin's power was greatly diminished when he became Gandalf. The danger Gandalf presented was due to his ability to inspire and organize the mortal races, not in his prowess or main force.
I guess it's up to interpretation, but personally I interpret that as dangerous as in lethality. Only Sauron had the power to best Gandalf the White in direct confrontation.