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[–] baascus@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Libertarianism isn’t a monolithic ideology, and opinions vary widely among libertarians. Furthermore, one who identifies as libertarian doesn’t inherently reject all utilitarian or communitarian values. Some may argue against seatbelt laws and drivers’ licenses on the basis of personal freedom and responsibility, while others might see the value in certain regulations that protect public safety. What unites libertarians is a belief in limiting government intervention to essential functions, but defining those ‘essential functions’ can differ greatly among individuals within the libertarian community. Libertarians often share common ground with leftists on social values, differing significantly from mainstream Republican politicians.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is correct, and the downvoters don't like that you're right because they all came here to circlejerk about how they think Libertarians are dumb.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

so where does Libertarian ends and where does "leftist" start?

because personal freedom, with some restrictions and protections sounds very much like left-wing, progressive politics.

like how many regulations are OK before you are no longer a libertarian and just a leftist?

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Libertarianism literally originated on the left. Right wing neo-libertarians were a creation of the mid 20th century. A product of the anti socialist panic/red scare of the 50s. where all socialist ideologies were demonized where possible. Or usurped and undermine in the case of Rothbard. He's also the guy that came up with anarco capitalism. Because nothing says you're against large over arching rules and systems. Than being a hypocrite and making an exception for your favorite system.

[–] Kalcifer@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

It's somewhat dubious to use terms like "left" and "right" how you are, especially when talking about historical context -- the defintions for those are extremely fluid.

[–] Kalcifer@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

One of the core ideas of libertarianism is to maximise the freedoms of the individual, so long as such freedoms don't infringe on those of others. As long as those tenets are met, libertarianism isn't necessarily mutually exclusive.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Now you're starting to understand why the Libertarian platform is awesome.

Don't just listen to what Internet edgelord commies tell you about it, look at the candidates' platforms and what the party actually stands for. https://www.lp.org/platform/

The only thing I don't like about their platform is the stance on Environmental Protection. I believe it is better for the government to impose environmental regulations to protect the environment that we share than to let big business run wild with pollution. That's obvious IMO.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The only thing I don’t like about their platform is the stance on Environmental Protection.

well good then, because there is nothing going with the environment and there is no need to worry about that.

Also I don't care what the USA Libertarian Party stands for, even if I was from the USA, it wouldn't matter, because of FPTP voting system it's a nothing party.

[–] Kalcifer@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Also I don’t care what the USA Libertarian Party stands for, even if I was from the USA, it wouldn’t matter, because of FPTP voting system it’s a nothing party.

This is a rather naive perspective.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well then, get off my American Internet and go curl some cheese or whatever your foreign weirdos do

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

pretty sure lemmy.world is hosted on hetzner which is a german company, but okay