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even on fuckcars people still like cars,... damn
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this post was submitted on 31 Jul 2023
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Just because I am able to live without one currently. It does not mean that everyone is able. I am not saying fuck all cars, just that we need to get them off our planet pretty soon for the benefit of all people. So currently for me Fuck Cars is just Fuck all Cars that are useless and not needed! Some people need cars and probably don't like it too! For me personally this communtiy is to rant about cars and why they suck for us all. Giving ideas for better world without cars and showing people that love cars that there are good reasons to hate them too.
I understand what you see, seems bad for you but thats currently how the world is. A bit fucked up. But we all try to change it to a better place and I think that is great and why I love communities like this one (:
I wanted to drop in and say thank you for being respectful and making a genuine attempt at communicating your ideas, is baffling to me how vile people are being to a basic question of the movement.
99% of cars are not needed. Everyone should be able to go on with their life without it. Every car dependent situation could not be. Instead of saying cars are ok because I need one right now" that is fallacious, we should be asking "how can we change things so we don't need it anymore ?". Fuck all cars
I don't know where you live. I live in Germany and know some people that are dependend on Cars and do not like it at all. Mostly outside of cities its just not possible to get to work without a car. If they would have alternatives they would switch. So as I said, we should be open to people and show them why it hurts also them and not just scream fuck cars only. We should rally for a better public transporting infrastructure and why it is also good for people that currently depend on cars.
And we are asking quite a lot how we can change things so we don't need them anymore. So for now, fuck all cars that are not needed. And fuck the politicians that they don't give the people alternatives. Fuck everything that makes cars more dependend in Daily live.
And we should also celebrate all changes that all changes to car centric infrastructure. Its still a long way, but I think just saying everone should just get off their job and not use cars anymore is not the best way...
Pfff, cry me a river. I know many of these people as well, and none, absolutely none of them has ever given any thought about where they live and work, but then complain that there’s no train running between those places. Yeah, trains do not go where you want them to, news at eleven.
And no, don’t start with the „not everybody can choose“ speech. Owning a car in Germany is expensive. You know who cannot choose where to place home and work? People who cannot afford cars. They have to find something that’s either walkable, bikeable, or on a public transport route.
For the vast majority of Germans, owning a car is a deliberate choice.
that's the bloody truth right here !
You are based and right. If someone needs a car, which might be, the focus should be on changing their situation as fast as possible so they don't need it.
I see very few valid exceptions - transporting infirm, people with disabilities etc. In most of those cases, there should still be a focus on how to minimize or substitute car use as much as possible
In my hometown they recently established a shuttle bus line for medical transportation and grocery transport for the elderly. This allows people with disabilities to get to places you need a car to get to without having to worry about the financial or environmental impact of owning their own car.
The amount of arrogant ignorance you have is hilarious. Have you ever been to the US, outside of a major city? You understand how large and disparate most of the US is right? You could fit 40 UKs in to the US. Should the mountains just be filled with busses going to every small town on tiny ass roads? What if there is no bus or train to where I'm going? Just horse and buggy it to "save the planet" or "stick it to capitalism"? Do you realize how many people LOVE cars? Go try and fix things so you can potentially do SOMETHING, not just sit here arrogantly shouting your narrowminded views. You need to have your opinions challenged in the real world, otherwise your fantastical arguments hold no water. You're not seeing from others perspectives, just naively trying to force your limited understanding of the world on to others.