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Do some parenting? Not just leave them alone with gadgets if you don’t want them on them all day.
There are involved parents who still want to use parental controls. It's not like everyone who uses the controls is relying solely on them. It's not an all-or-nothing proposition.
Oh I agree. I guess my points was not to rely on parental controls, and also generally know when it’s time to say it’s been enough screen time for the day.
Do you have kids?
Yes. Which is why I posted what I posted.
So what do you do if you have a teenager you want to be able to reach on the phone when they are out with friends but not spend all day on Tik Tok?
You’re going to need a more original/thoughtful response. I have kids and I think like this person. I don’t trust parental controls, kids and content creators know how to get around them. I, personally, think it is idiotic to assume parental controls do more than present a barrier to content, not usually a blocker.
What happens when your kids use other devices without parental controls at a friend’s house or school? Will your kids know about being responsible with content and how to navigate to safe spaces, or are they just going to go totally wild?
So, yes, I do have kids and no I do not blindly trust parental controls of any sort. Just want you to pack up that argument right now. Real annoying when parents think they can discredit a viable view because the person they are talking to hasn’t had a crotch goblin.
Why does using parental controls mean that you can't also educate your children about good practices on the internet? Why the assumption that anyone who does blindly trusts them and doesn't attempt any other form of education? I don't understand this religious adherence to not using the tools that are available.
It doesn’t? Literally everyone here is saying that you should do both. No one is saying that using parental controls is bad. They’re saying it is insufficient to solve the problem.
There was no assumption here. Most of the thread is saying you should be a present parent and do both. I think if you are blindly trusting tools, you’re going to have a bad time. Further, if you want to shift your story to be that you do both education and parental controls, cool. So far you’ve said that you prefer using parental controls than “arguing with your kids every 10 minutes.” Regardless, you can do whatever you want as a parent.
I don’t understand why you at all think that anyone is “religious” about not using parental controls. I’m actually wondering if you are reading the responses. Literally no one is saying “don’t use parental controls.” No one in this thread is suggesting what you are saying here. Again, they are suggesting that parental controls are insufficient and cannot make up for being a present parent. This is not hard to comprehend.
Again, this is a response on a thread about parental controls where the opening salvo was
The clear implication being that if you are using parental controls, you aren't doing parenting and leaving your kids alone with gadgets constantly
As for you, you are the one making the assumptions here. What does this look like to you? Because to me it looks lke a pretty damn big assumtion:
And it's literally you who is saying that someone who uses parental controls won't educate their children in any other way:
There’s no reasoning with you. You are interpreting my statements in the most black and white manner possible when they are explicitly meant to acknowledge nuance. Nothing I said precluded education. I have simply been saying that parental controls are insufficient. I still use them, they are a barrier, after all.
Let me give you an analogy along the lines of kids. I’m saying that the pullout method is insufficient. It’s flawed in many ways. Am I suggesting that you should forgo using any birth control because there are flaws with the pull out method? Fuck no. I’m sorry that you cannot see the nuance.
This.