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[-] relay@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 7 months ago

It depends where you go. There are mountain lions in some parts as well. Coyotes and wolves are carnivores as well. Carnivores generally don't go for dangerous prey unless there is nothing else to eat. Just get yourself high enough in the trees where the bears and coyotes can't reach you when you are sleeping. If you are with a group of people closeby, they have enough sense to know that messing with one of you is a death sentence.

[-] LVL@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 7 months ago

To be fair, climbing up in trees isn't gonna save you from a bear.

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It will. Depends what type of bear though.

A grizzly? Their fat butts slowly climb at a glacial pace. A black bear? No climbing as they are Olympic class climbers, but you stand, make yourself big, and “fight” as they are cowards and are terrified by confrontation.

A polar bear? Lmao, get ready to die.

[-] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 7 months ago

A grizzly will just knock the tree down if it can't climb to you.

Climbing a tree is delaying the inevitable with most animals. If they have decided to eat you and can't reach you, they just wait.

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 7 months ago

What kind of small sad trees are you climbing?

A grizzly is never knocking the down a bog standard regular oak tree.

[-] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 7 months ago

Lots of pines where I live. The oak trees aren't native to the region.

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Ah makes sense. But still, most US forests are comprised of Oak, Ash, Maple, Elm, etc. All trees that wouldn’t even feel a bear crashing into them at max speed.

But still, unless the tree is fairly young, I genuinely feel like any pine that could carry a humans weight could easily shrug off a bear pushing on it.

Plus Grizzlys aren’t some psychopathic hunters. Even if they could push over the tree with enough time and effort, or even climb it since grizzilys can also climb (albeit much slower then black bears), they are opportunistic hunters and would probably deem the entire process a waste of effort and lose interest in most cases.

The vast majority of bear attacks are also because a parent feels that their cubs are threatened, so if the bear feels safe again it will most likely pull back.

This is also a worst case scenario. Either the bear is near death and can’t find other prey, or you realllllllllly pissed it off, both scenarios that are pretty rare.

[-] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 7 months ago

For sure, I wouldn't expect a bear to go after you, but if they want you, they'll find a way to get you.

[-] relay@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 7 months ago

exactly. Trees don't make it impossible, just make it a pain in the ass to get you compared to sleeping on the ground. You aren't moving when you sleep, so intimidation and weapons aren't an option. If there is easier food for these predators, then they'll go for that. If you seem like too much of a pain in the ass compared to what they know are easier options then you are safe from being targeted.

[-] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 7 months ago

See, I was thinking you'd have to piss the bear off first and it chases you up the tree. If you're just sleeping up there, it's probably ok.

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