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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by Oneeightnine@feddit.uk to c/letstalkaboutgames@feddit.uk

Congratulations to the team and the community as a whole for this pretty amazing achievement.

Turns out the one level that the group was having trouble with was originally uploaded using something called a TAS, which renders it null and void, so they didn't actually have to beat that one to finish them all.

**Edited title. Making sure that the word 'level' doesn't fit. Have a good day. *

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[-] kraftpudding@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Ok so what's a TAS? Kind of an anticlimactic ending? The last level was uploaded by cheating so we can't clear it? Not that it diminishes the accomplishment, but it's still a bit... meh.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Tool assisted speedrun. Basically a program that executes inputs with speed and precision humans cannot replicate. No human has ever actually beaten it, so it's an illegitimate level.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 9 points 7 months ago

So I never played SMM, but was the idea that one had to beat their own level in order to prove it was beatable before they could upload it? And so using a TAS for that initial upload is cheating because nobody else will be able to beat it?

[-] missingno@kbin.social 14 points 7 months ago

Important point of clarification, the level isn't truly impossible, a TAS proves it's theoretically winnable. Bombs5 by the same author turns out to also have been TAS, but was beaten anyway.

The issue is that if the author themself couldn't do it humanly, then the community doesn't consider it legitimate. It's disqualified, the author even came out and said Team 0% should be declared victorious.

That said, several players are still grinding it anyway. They've come too far to stop now, consider it the optional postgame superboss so we can get the True Ending. And I really hope it happens.

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago

To be clear, only levels the author has beaten should have been uploaded to Mario Maker. That's the rule that was in place. The level was uploaded but the author never beat it, breaking the rule. That's why it was rejected for project 0%.

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee -4 points 7 months ago

"The author came out and said Team 0% should be declared victorious"

I really hate that his opinion on it matters to anyone

[-] topherclay@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

His opinion here is him admitting that the level he is responsible for was illigetimate. The legitimacy of that level is something he actually has first hand knowledge over so why shouldn't is opinion hold weight?

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

He has acknowledged (finally) that he cheated and lied, so yeah he needed to say something, since he was responsible. And I guess he kinda half assed apologized (or made excuses or whatever he did).

But his opinion on whether they should be declared victorious or not shouldn't hold any weight.

Not only do they get to determine whether they have succeeded or not, but his blessing is more of an insult than anything since they would have declared themselves successful over a week ago and not had to waste hours of their lives trying to beat it and hunting for evidence that it was faked.

[-] topherclay@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Okay I see your point that you are frustrated for the sake of the completionists because of what is ultimately this guys dishonesty, and you wish his opinion could be dismissed because you don't want the dishonest guys opinion to matter. That makes sense to me.

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